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#117884 by gtZip
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:00 pm
Crank up Wikipedia and search: Turnera diffusa

This stuff is totally legal and has the same effect as reefer.
Look for it at an herbal store.
They're even selling it at convenience stores now (damiana is the 'ingredient').

#117888 by philbymon
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:14 pm
Damiana boosts your estrogen, Zip. That's what it's used for. I've smoked it, & eaten it, & made tea with it - it does NOT have the effects 'they' say it has.

#117890 by gtZip
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:38 pm
Well the old lady has been getting high as sh*t on it for the last couple nights.

#117891 by philbymon
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:51 pm
I used to get a blend of herbs at the health food store that had kava kava & damiana & some other legal stuff in it. I'd go out to the clubs & roll my own joints with it, just to freak out everyone. All I ever noticed was...well...it seemed like my head was about a half an inch higher from my shoulders than it usually was.

Try some marijuanilla. It's legal. Or maybe haret hogart (hogart? I can't remember!). It supposedly affects the same areas of the brain as THC. For that matter, absynthe works on the very same receptors in the brain as THC. (Be careful with the thujone content, though. You don't wanna do too much.) Wild Dagga has been used as a pot substitute, too, & it's legal, but I wasn't impressed with that one, either.

I've searched through most of the legal highs, & their effects are FAR from the illegal ones.

#117892 by gtZip
Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:56 pm
Ok Phil, go to a smoke shop and look for Voodoo Magic.
Then smoke it.
(it will probably say incense, or 'not for human consumption'... Ignore that and smoke some).

Then get back to me.

#117893 by philbymon
Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:30 am
Are you talking salvia divinorum? That stuff DOES work, & I doubt that it'll be legal much longer. It CAN be dangerous, by the way.

The worst part of salvia is that it only lasts a few seconds. Funny effect, too. Hit it, stand up & then sit down, quick...it's like a loooong tunnel effect.

Use sparingly.

Okay...Turnera diffusa, a.k.a. damiana, IS prolly the herb you're talking about, & there ARE historical entries of certain aphrodisiacal & buzzy effects from it, but I never experienced anything but an odd taste from the stuff. Maybe I got some bad sh*t...

Are you using the leaf? That's all I ever saw available.

#117895 by gtZip
Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:50 am
It's like crushed up leaf. There's a few other ingredients in it.
Do you have a smoke shop or tobacco store nearby?
We've been buying it from Jacksons (convenience store attached to texaco)

Voodoo Magic

There's no salvia in it. I tried salvia once.

#117898 by gtZip
Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:05 am
Blue lotus, Damiana, red clover, Spanish moss, swamp Lilly, cypress needle, molasses honey and almond.

lol, that's what's listed as the ingredients.
Smells a lot like reefer to me though when she puffs it out though. Just doesn't linger very long.

#118000 by Slacker G
Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:43 pm
philbymon wrote:Are you talking salvia divinorum? That stuff DOES work, & I doubt that it'll be legal much longer. It CAN be dangerous, by the way.

The worst part of salvia is that it only lasts a few seconds. Funny effect, too. Hit it, stand up & then sit down, quick...it's like a loooong tunnel effect.

Use sparingly.

Okay...Turnera diffusa, a.k.a. damiana, IS prolly the herb you're talking about, & there ARE historical entries of certain aphrodisiacal & buzzy effects from it, but I never experienced anything but an odd taste from the stuff. Maybe I got some bad sh*t...

Are you using the leaf? That's all I ever saw available.


Even if you could dry sh*t and smoke it and get high some asshole bureaucrat would make it illegal. It must be that they believe their lot in life is to make everyone as miserable and contemptable as they are. :evil:

#118002 by gtZip
Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:19 am
Yep their voting on trying to make it illegal come january, here.
But for now? Game on.

#118016 by gtZip
Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:29 am
Code: Select allhttp://www.dascents.com/
go there

Code: Select allhttp://www.shop.dascents.com/Voodoo-Magic-1g-10-pack-VD-1g-10.htm

Or specifically, there.

#118037 by philbymon
Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:54 pm
My goodness, Zip! What did you PAY for this stuff? The smallest quantity I see is $130!

Have you tried going to your local health food store & blending your own?

You could prolly do it for less than $30, for the same quantities.

There are rumors of a lotus plant used in ancient Egypt as a mind-altering agent, but my sources have yet to find any lotus that supplies that effect.

This may be something worthy of research.

Thanks, Zip!

#118061 by gtZip
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:43 pm
It's like $19 a pack at the tobaccy store.
Cheap? No.
Legal? Yep.

I'm guessin it's the combo of blue lotus and damiana.
And oh yeah... It's got mugwort and skullcap in tharticular one, also

#118068 by Starfish Scott
Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:15 pm
LOL What's the brand name again?

I'll check em out personally..

#118073 by J-HALEY
Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:27 pm
Is this the same stuff they are calling K-2? If so there are already asshole politicians trying to outlaw that stuff down here!

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