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#114465 by Tronix
Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:00 am
For Bass that is.. I understand the advantages and disadvantages as they relate to guitar amplifiers, but with bass heads, I'm not so sure..My gut feeling is go with a tube head, because I have an ideology that music should be kept analog as much as possible..
Basically, my wife says in a year or so, I can upgrade my head, and add another cab (Peavey TVX115)..This is going to be my full rig for many years to come...thoughts? opinions?

#114500 by gbheil
Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:22 pm
Opinion only as I have little experience to draw from.

Best multi channel tube head you can possibly afford.

Just sayin ...

#114508 by 90 dB
Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:39 pm
If you're prepared to spend a TON of money for a decent tube head, a good tech to work on it, and tubes ($$) every six months or so, then tube is the way to go. Of course, you will probably need a SS head to use as a backup. :lol:



If it were me, I would get the best SS head I could buy and a good cab to go with it. Cheaper up front, cheaper to maintain, and works every time you plug it in.

#114522 by philbymon
Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:37 pm
I've never used tubes with my bass. I've never had a problem on stage with my amp, either, after playing for 11-12 years.

When I have used other ppl's stuff, I've seen & experienced prob's with tube heads.

I'm sticking with SS.

#114549 by Tronix
Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:23 am
I have a good cab Peavey TVX 410, and when I get the head I'm also getting the matching 1X15 as well, so cab wise I'm good.
SS seems to be winning, the tone advantage of the tubes dont outweigh, the expense and trouble...thanks guys, I really appreciate your input. :)

#114554 by 90 dB
Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:12 pm
If you want to do some more intense research before you buy, here is a site that might help:


http://www.talkbass.com/forum/

#114580 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:09 pm
OK

Just to add to my own learning experience let me play devil advocate for a moment.

If the "tube amp" is the holy grail for the guitar player.

Why is this not so for the bassist standing beside him ??

Well ??

#114596 by mistermikev
Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:09 pm
sans... I don't think it's not. I recall this band I saw where the bass player was playing an alembic into a 70's ampeg - all tube - head with two cabs... it was literally heart stopping.

I've also heard many great sounding solid state setups... harke comes to mind...

tubes want to distort... and that's not always ideal for bass - unless you like that. (I always thought those bassmans sounded great for bass!)

in my experience you can't go wrong adding tubes to anything... vocals, guitar, bass, probably even sound good on trumpet!

still I think for bass I like a tube pre to warm it up but a solid state power section that will maintain a higher degree of clarity on the those low notes.

just an opinion like everyone's

#114603 by gbheil
Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:20 pm
Hummm ... Yes ... in that line of though I have to say I like a good clean but heart stopping bass line behind my guitar distortion.

Never considered that aspect. :oops:

#114626 by Tronix
Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:01 am
thanks, Sans, you've pretty much hit on what my original dilemma was, I don't want distortion in my bass, as much as I LOVED Cliff Burton, I don't want to emulate his sound, lol

I think I'll look into this..

mistermikev wrote:still I think for bass I like a tube pre to warm it up but a solid state power section that will maintain a higher degree of clarity on the those low notes.


Thanks Mistermikev :)
#114806 by Cajundaddy
Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:33 am
Tronix wrote:For Bass that is.. I understand the advantages and disadvantages as they relate to guitar amplifiers, but with bass heads, I'm not so sure..My gut feeling is go with a tube head, because I have an ideology that music should be kept analog as much as possible..
Basically, my wife says in a year or so, I can upgrade my head, and add another cab (Peavey TVX115)..This is going to be my full rig for many years to come...thoughts? opinions?


Depends on your goals:

Sweet overtones and harmonics = tube (Fender Bassman, Ampeg SVT)
Reliable, Chest kicking bottom with lots of clean headroom = SS (SWR, Sunn, GK)
#114821 by 90 dB
Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:28 pm
TheJohnny7Band wrote:
Tronix wrote:For Bass that is.. I understand the advantages and disadvantages as they relate to guitar amplifiers, but with bass heads, I'm not so sure..My gut feeling is go with a tube head, because I have an ideology that music should be kept analog as much as possible..
Basically, my wife says in a year or so, I can upgrade my head, and add another cab (Peavey TVX115)..This is going to be my full rig for many years to come...thoughts? opinions?


Depends on your goals:

Sweet overtones and harmonics = tube (Fender Bassman, Ampeg SVT)
Reliable, Chest kicking bottom with lots of clean headroom = SS (SWR, Sunn, GK)







I dig your stuff man. "Pipeline"? Haven't heard that done in years - and you guys do it well!



Really makes me miss Cali. :cry:
#114862 by Cajundaddy
Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:35 pm
90 dB wrote:I dig your stuff man. "Pipeline"? Haven't heard that done in years - and you guys do it well!

Really makes me miss Cali. :cry:


Hey, thanks for the props! :D

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