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#105393 by Cretindilettante
Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:29 am
GLENJ wrote:Cred.On paper communisim only shows what happens. stallin ,mao, hitler ,pol pot, che guerrera, fidel, Totalatarian govts have to have complete control.
That is how so many people end up DEAD. If you feel that strongly about this I applaude you. Venizuela is very much in line with your views. I am sure they would welcome you with open arms.


I don't understand what you are saying, you didn't really address what I said either. I think it was just a poor attempt at insulting me and implying that I have warped or evil views. Just go read some marx, or even just a wikipedia page on what communism and socialism implied when the ideas were first conceived or something, because you clearly have no understanding of it.

#105468 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:55 pm
Cred,, I am not arguing against what would be a perfect society. You are far more insulting than I ever intended,,,,,
All I asked of you was to see the deadly results ,the history of the world,of people that think marx teachings were the greatest thing since peanut butter.
WAY to many people DIED because of "marx" theories,,, If you think that is ok,,, What else is there to say.

#105483 by Cretindilettante
Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:33 pm
GLENJ wrote:Cred,, I am not arguing against what would be a perfect society. You are far more insulting than I ever intended,,,,,
All I asked of you was to see the deadly results ,the history of the world,of people that think marx teachings were the greatest thing since peanut butter.
WAY to many people DIED because of "marx" theories,,, If you think that is ok,,, What else is there to say.


People didn't die because of Marx's ideas, people died because power hungry pseudo intellectual tyrants misinterpreted Marx's ideas. With that said, I do not see true communism or socialism ever working in real life because of human greed.

#105489 by gtZip
Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:12 am
There can never be true communism because humans are pack animals

#105498 by gbheil
Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:53 am
Cretindilettante wrote:
GLENJ wrote:Cred,, I am not arguing against what would be a perfect society. You are far more insulting than I ever intended,,,,,
All I asked of you was to see the deadly results ,the history of the world,of people that think marx teachings were the greatest thing since peanut butter.
WAY to many people DIED because of "marx" theories,,, If you think that is ok,,, What else is there to say.


People didn't die because of Marx's ideas, people died because power hungry pseudo intellectual tyrants misinterpreted Marx's ideas. With that said, I do not see true communism or socialism ever working in real life because of human greed.


Greed is what keeps all economic and governmental forms from being functional.

Well spoken.

#105517 by 1collaborator
Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:49 pm
WOW !! This thread started when someone decided to quit smoking and has turned pretty ugly. I hope you haven't upset someone enough to make em start smoking again.

It will be 8 years for my wife and I tommorrow, which is her b-day btw. I hope I never start again.

I hope everyone that wants to quit, can.

As for your nerve wrecking whining-- FTBS !!!

Tis but another day in Paradise !!!!

#105536 by Dewy
Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:56 pm
Glen does have a good looking pup in his Avatar... But so far Glen's bark has been worse than his bite.

I need to go listen to his music as well... so many folks, so little time.

But no, I don't think he has a clue what real Socialism or Communism is. He's just one of the misled eating from the table of dissent against the Current President. I met some of those folks when I disagreed with the last President... the Anarchists who oppose everything for the argument/ discord.

The main thing he and I disagree on is facts... I go find them and then make a decision... he has yet to offer any. I'm sure if we looked we could find plenty to agree on, but he'd rather use me to sharpen his intellectual claws on. Sometimes I think he learns from our "conversations", other times it seems he's paying no attention what so ever, and just venting against something he doesn't understand.

Oh, well... his "logic" makes mine look brilliant. Fun for a foil... thru his "misunderstanding" of the current events I have been able to refute many of the "myths" being perpetuated in today's popular society. Not sure if it was him or one of the other "detractors" but I found out more about the [url=Top IRS officials have been working with Democrats on Capitol Hill to determine how the agency will enforce President Obama’s new health care law. Republican lawmakers estimate the legislation will require the hiring of many thousands of new (and armed) tax enforcement agents.]"IRS Hiring Thousands to come collect your Health Care Money"!![/url]

Bunk...

"All that will happen with the IRS is similar to a current 1099, where a bank sends the IRS a statement that says 'here's the interest' someone owes, and they send it to the taxpayer," he said. "We expect to get a simple form that ... says this person has acceptable health coverage."

President Obama's budget for FY 2011 gives a $450 million increase for the IRS and describes the agency's $8 billion allocation for enforcement and modernization programs to support "significant new revenue-generating initiatives that will target critical areas of non-compliance."

Of the nearly 199 million income tax returns filed with the IRS last year, more than 1.5 million -- or just below 1 percent -- were reviewed by agency auditors.


Q: Will the IRS hire 16,500 new agents to enforce the health care law?

A: No. The law requires the IRS mostly to hand out tax credits, not collect penalties. The claim of 16,500 new agents stems from a partisan analysis based on guesswork and false assumptions, and compounded by outright misrepresentation.


But again, I heard this first here in Bandmix, and was able to find the answers before my neighbor could make that assertion, thus having the facts to share with him, and help diffuse some of his concerns about
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#105537 by Dewy
Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:00 pm
Ohh, I kept waiting for someone to scream "Whoaa Black Betty" during Rats ain't it love"... very reminiscent of RamJam's guitarwork on that tune... very classic.

Spring breeze was really enjoyable... not too keen on the bass work there... but the guitar work was very good... loved the drums pushing the tune.

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