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Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:42 pm
by gbheil
Looking for ideas on what you consider the best way to play special effects / backing tracks in live settings?
Considering a loop pedal that is up-loadable with files from my computer.
Something that sound effects ( like the sound of a thunderstorm can be played as intro to LET IT RAIN ) can be easily manipulated on/ off by a guitar player or vocalist.

Ideas ?

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:56 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
The best way (for a band) would be to have everything running to a click track. But then you need a drummer who can play

If you are playing along with recordings the band has made, you could also have a keyboard player who has all the tracks from your recordings that can be muted/highlighted individually when you play

Or, you could play along to a recording of the various effects/tracks you want.

Since I go solo most of the time and use backing tracks quite often, I've put my entire concert on video that runs from my computer and basically perform "live" to a movie running on the projector screen. Then I can also use video clips in the short space between songs to promote merchandise or make special announcements.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:26 pm
by gbheil
Computer option was considered.
We rarely use backing tracks. When we do it's for things like the aforementioned "thunderstorm" intro.
Also have attempted to get band approval for a 'specials' person. A musician to fill in the gaps whether or not it's some acoustic guitar work, keyboard pads or other effects, so that our vocalist can focus only on vocals and working the crowd.
Thanks for the input.
Good food for thought.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:08 am
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
if you're only playing a thunderstorm and it's during an intro, that should be simple to do from a computer hooked into the sound system playing a file or via a CD plugged in

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:34 am
by GuitarMikeB
Yeah, special sounds like a thunderstorm can be done by a computer backing track (controlled by someone with a free hand/finger to cue it), or by loading the sounds into loops on a looper pedal. The clicktrack option only applies for full-band/strings/etc type backing tracks.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:00 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Or really, you could use an old unused cell phone with a 1/8" plug to RCA and just leave it back at the board for those special effects moments.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:59 am
by gbheil
GuitarMikeB wrote:Yeah, special sounds like a thunderstorm can be done by a computer backing track (controlled by someone with a free hand/finger to cue it), or by loading the sounds into loops on a looper pedal. The clicktrack option only applies for full-band/strings/etc type backing tracks.


And this is why I'm considering the foot-switch option.
We are all busy playing or setting "stage presence" screwing around with a computer / CD player ETC is a distraction.
We already do it this way in rehearsal.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:23 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
That wouldn't be hard to do.

Since this is in an intro and it is a sound that doesn't have to be synchronized to a beat, you simply put 10 seconds (or however long) of silence before the sound effect.

Anyone (even the drummer!) can start that playing from the stage, then count off for the band to start the song, and it will come in after you've started playing.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:49 pm
by gbheil
yod wrote:That wouldn't be hard to do.

Since this is in an intro and it is a sound that doesn't have to be synchronized to a beat, you simply put 10 seconds (or however long) of silence before the sound effect.

Anyone (even the drummer!) can start that playing from the stage, then count off for the band to start the song, and it will come in after you've started playing.


LMBO

Simple ( probably why I did not think of it ) . . . I like it !
Drummer is the one member less 'scripted' for stage presence . . . my little shirt pocket MP3 player would work for that idea.
Gonna try it Thursday.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:56 pm
by Cajundaddy
Agreed. Drummer is usually the best for handling tracks. They push the button, let it run, and count off the band. We use click or backing tracks often for worship music and the drummer handles the cues.

Re: Best way to play special effects / backing tracks ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:08 pm
by gtZip
BOSS Loop Station.
Add sound clips. Step on appropriate button at the appropriate time.

Often times you'll need the keep the song at the designed tempo though, so make sure the drummer is steady. Sometimes you can use a metronome blinky light thing on his snare rim.