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Here's a basic guide, but it may be helpful to some people: http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/5n3ckS/www.recordingwebsite.com/articles/eqfreq.php

Thanks.

A little extra information is always helpful.

That is great, I'm gonna laminate that and hang it next to the one I use. i can never remember what note 440 is.

dizzizz wrote:Here's a basic guide, but it may be helpful to some people: http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/5n3ckS/www.recordingwebsite.com/articles/eqfreq.php

Thanks. Very helpful reference.

I used to have a hand-held spectrum analyzer and run pink noise through my PA. You could actually "see" what this chart is talking about. Very useful info, thanks for posting it. IMO in all the shows I have seen over the years most bands suppress the high end too much. It's kind of tricky to raise the high end, feedback can happen, but vocals sound a lot better when you can hear the s, t, p, etc. Without a balanced EQ vocals sound like mud. Especially on my voice I have found I need higher treble settings than most singers. This chart is a very good place to start. Learn all there is to learn about EQ and your band will sound great every time. You can set your sound and never have to worry about feedback. Know the levels of all the frequencies at all times and learn how to get the best vocal sound.

fisherman bob wrote:I used to have a hand-held spectrum analyzer and run pink noise through my PA. You could actually "see" what this chart is talking about. Very useful info, thanks for posting it. IMO in all the shows I have seen over the years most bands suppress the high end too much. It's kind of tricky to raise the high end, feedback can happen, but vocals sound a lot better when you can hear the s, t, p, etc. Without a balanced EQ vocals sound like mud. Especially on my voice I have found I need higher treble settings than most singers. This chart is a very good place to start. Learn all there is to learn about EQ and your band will sound great every time. You can set your sound and never have to worry about feedback. Know the levels of all the frequencies at all times and learn how to get the best vocal sound.

A lot of people try to get more clarity by boosting the high frequencies, which inevitably results in feedback, so they back off the highs. The best way to increase clarity in live vocals is to cut the low freqs (particularly in the 200-500 Hz area), rather than boost the highs. You will get more gain before feedback as well.


There is a local club here that has a nice system - JBL powered mains (5) flown from the ceiling. The system should sound great, but the guy mixing the bands doesn't know what an EQ is. The vocal are all mud. Makes me crazy.

Good info. I'll have to toy with that some.

Tony is always complaining that he "can't hear himself" in the mix.

Even when it sounds good to the rest of us.

If this will help him with his vocals it's worth a shot.

Also been told we need compression to our live vocals.

Not willing to expend resources for a compressor until I've done some more research.

"Also been told we need compression to our live vocals."



Compression is not usually used on live vocals, especially in monitor mixes. The louder the singer sings, the more the comp squashes the signal - the singer tries to compensate by singing louder, which can result in injury. Mic placement, technique and judicious use of EQ are the preferred methods.



"Tony is always complaining that he "can't hear himself" in the mix.

Even when it sounds good to the rest of us."



I believe that he uses a stand-mounted monitor, right? You might try getting him a good 12" floor monitor with a dedicated 31 band EQ just for his monitor mix. Either that, or in-ears.

Thanks for the input.

I'm making notes.