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Tube or solid state?

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#145534 by toxicmetal11
Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:45 am
HAVE YOU EVERY COME ACROSS A FENDER DUAL SHOWMAN? I KNOW TED NUGENT USED TWO ON STAGE, HOWEVER I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE IDEA OF USING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PRETTY HEAVY DUTY 2X10 COMBO LINKED TO A SEPARATE CAB OF 4X12s (i'M GUESSING HERE). Seems the combination is perfect hybrid solid state pre-amp with two Fender Power amp tubes on the output side. Two of these towers side by side or one on each side of the stage using a stereo splitter or pedal output into the 2nd amp would sound awesome - or not?
1gytrpykr wrote:I have been playing a solid state Peavey Renown for the past 20 years. I have used it for practice, in many gigs, and other applications through the years. I love the sound of it. I had a Fender Twin Reverb tube amp when I was growing up - it had constant tube issues, and to me did not sound as good as the Peavey. THough there is no doubt that a good tube amp has an awesome tone, I have always been very happy with the tones that I get from my SS Peavey.

#145641 by JeffR9
Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:40 am
I'm using a Sansamp BDDI until I can afford an SVT.

$200 vs $2000

#146735 by The Village Idiot
Tue May 17, 2011 6:53 pm
I love the glow. Tubes forever. Oh and fee waybill as well
#146748 by toxicmetal11
Tue May 17, 2011 8:34 pm
I use a Crate Blue Voodoo 120H through one of Crates first 4X12 stereo cabs. Laugh if you want, but please do me a favor and click on the Bandmix link below to hear for yourself how good this rig sounds. I have a homemade pedalboard with these pedals in this order: BOSS TU-2 tuner set for silent tuning, BOSS Noise Surpressor, Compressor, Flanger, I'm not giving up what distortion pedal I use, that's my secret weapon, and lastly a BOSS Digital Delay. I've used a BOSS METAL CORE before, and I highly recommend this monster of a pedal. Its just a beast. I played it through a RAVEN SOLID STATE one time and it blew me halfway across the room, the gain was monstrously heavy but clean, if you can wrap your head around that. So, as solid state goes, any time you skip the amps channel gain and use a pedal instead, it sounds awesome. Especially if you know how to dial in the right EQ. CHECK OUT MY SONGS, THANKS. DEAN.

#146749 by toxicmetal11
Tue May 17, 2011 8:42 pm
Love the Tubes, used to have their first three releases. Here's a lyric from one song, maybe you remember it Village Idiot "BIG PARTIES EVERYNIGHT / LIKE TONIGHT / AND LAMPS, WITH SHADES" They were WAY AHEAD OF THE GAME and when I first moved to Phoenix from London I dressed too flamboyount and had to get a whole new wardrobe yet The Tubes were huge. But they had to high tail it to LA where real cool people live. LOL
The Village Idiot wrote:I love the glow. Tubes forever. Oh and fee waybill as well

#147536 by Crunchysoundbite
Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:21 pm
Really, I haven't read all posts on this topic. The system you have is what your married to unless you not only have the greenbacks to test everyone's theory, but, then test everything you've bought with a grocery list of tehnical snacks. One thing I've learned to work in any of my endeavors is the acronym Kiss- keep it simple stupid. If you want warmer tone, back off the gain. Show me a system this doesn't work on and I'll show you an acoustic- unplugged! :lol:
#147537 by Crunchysoundbite
Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:26 pm
toxicmetal11 wrote:I use a Crate Blue Voodoo 120H through one of Crates first 4X12 stereo cabs. Laugh if you want, but please do me a favor and click on the Bandmix link below to hear for yourself how good this rig sounds. I have a homemade pedalboard with these pedals in this order: BOSS TU-2 tuner set for silent tuning, BOSS Noise Surpressor, Compressor, Flanger, I'm not giving up what distortion pedal I use, that's my secret weapon, and lastly a BOSS Digital Delay. I've used a BOSS METAL CORE before, and I highly recommend this monster of a pedal. Its just a beast. I played it through a RAVEN SOLID STATE one time and it blew me halfway across the room, the gain was monstrously heavy but clean, if you can wrap your head around that. So, as solid state goes, any time you skip the amps channel gain and use a pedal instead, it sounds awesome. Especially if you know how to dial in the right EQ. CHECK OUT MY SONGS, THANKS. DEAN.
It's no secret what your delay is, It's a Dod. Nothing has the drive as a DOD. Slap me if I'm wrong!

#147538 by Crunchysoundbite
Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:29 pm
Like your configuiration though!
#147794 by Douglas Rawlings
Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:36 am
toxicmetal11 wrote:HAVE YOU EVERY COME ACROSS A FENDER DUAL SHOWMAN? I KNOW TED NUGENT USED TWO ON STAGE, HOWEVER I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE IDEA OF USING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PRETTY HEAVY DUTY 2X10 COMBO LINKED TO A SEPARATE CAB OF 4X12s (i'M GUESSING HERE). Seems the combination is perfect hybrid solid state pre-amp with two Fender Power amp tubes on the output side. Two of these towers side by side or one on each side of the stage using a stereo splitter or pedal output into the 2nd amp would sound awesome - or not?
1gytrpykr wrote:I have been playing a solid state Peavey Renown for the past 20 years. I have used it for practice, in many gigs, and other applications through the years. I love the sound of it. I had a Fender Twin Reverb tube amp when I was growing up - it had constant tube issues, and to me did not sound as good as the Peavey. THough there is no doubt that a good tube amp has an awesome tone, I have always been very happy with the tones that I get from my SS Peavey.


The times I saw Uncle Ted he was running 3 Fender Super Twins (180 watts, 2x12) into 3 Fender Dual Showman Cabs (JBL D130 2x15). Loud, massive, and hella ballsy. That was OLDSKOOL.

#148508 by Paleopete
Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:06 pm
Yeah Ted may have tried Dual Showmans sometime, but he normally used Twin Reverbs. He saw an older guitar player (think early 60's) with a Gibson Birdland and a Twin Reverb, loved it and that's all he usually played for many years.

I like Twins, but I'll keep my Super Reverb. Great sound and not as loud.

#148541 by Crunchysoundbite
Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:17 am
You speak of Uncle Ted. Ted Has broken in my heart when vinyl was as blue ray is today. 8 tracks were leaving, people wouldn't even steal them anymore. This is what I've found: Vinyl kicked ass over cassette. Ted Nugent's self titled album in vinyl was clear- recorded from original source ,of which I know not the medium. On cassette, at the end of the second bar there is sound quality that faults the rest of Stanglehold. You can hear it on the radio, it is that pronounced. I love playing that tune, but, then again, it is a studio cut. Therefore, for me to play it the way it sounds on vinyl, I have to stop, change guitars, three times (3 guitars). Yeah, all of it is not played with one on the recording, i.e. solid body (Strat), F- hole (Gibson 335) and an over dub solid body with whammy eccentuated at parts. It is tedious to sync them all. Then I attack the switches -pedal and amps. It is Just as tedious. To get that deep low and bright high without that cutting glass sound. There are important notes in majors that have to come out of the pack without kissing the sky. My modeler will take care of my amp tube or solid state choice, which is to say one will be programmed with a tube sound, the other is solid state which, combined, creats a sound that climbs the walls! 8) That's my choice! I am going to add this description, the sound from one amp is predominant and falls quickly as the other amp chases the sound from the first with reverb without vibrato. Can't beat it.

#152791 by blues edge
Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:48 pm
love tubes but in the studio direct is soooooo much easier & cheaper.here are some great tube amps i've used marshall, fender, boogie ,allesandro, kendrick,magnatone , rickenbacher, carr, vox, ampeg, theyre all as different as can be . same make & models sound different from different yrs of production. they all sound completely different w/ a change of speaker , & / or guitar. sort of like soup ? you never know whats going to make it great.but over all its how you play more than what you play that counts. by the way when I saw ted he used 6 brown fender supers with 6 dual showman cabs ( 71-72 ) & it was a little loud !

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