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#99993 by Jonny Deth
Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:34 pm
Just my take after a lot of experiments the last few years.

Ultimately for distorted rhythm guitar ala rock, hard rock, metal, grunge etc. I say always go with an amp simulator or direct box and of course, record direct.

For lead/solo, this is a lot more challenging.
If you record direct for solos, you pick up transient noise and "signal garbage". It's not a weakness in playing, just the nature of a raw signal that has no room to breath.
I also have about a dozen mics to work with. Your common condenser is a bad idea. They sound bland and loose on a speaker unless you're using a blaring midrange driven tone which I admit is common with most lead metal players but not I. No mids and no depth effects. Same issue with the cardioid, bland and loose. I tried a lot of expensive and legendary mics including the SM58.

What finally worked?
Pencil mics with the small capsule.
I have some very cheap pencil mics that produced better recordings on a mic'd guitar amp speaker than my 200 dollar condenser. For other purposes, obviously they can't compete but this specific task, nothing proved finer.
Nice tight focused sound like a direct recording but no transients or "signal garbage".

My ultimate pencil mic for this task turned out to be an MXL 603 condenser.
Now I know why the SM57 is so popular after seeing the capsule on them.

#105162 by Jim-FindingFortress
Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:44 pm
Pencil mics are going to record better for you overall - including for rhythm stuff. Even at the pro recording studio my band just finished recording at the sound engineer pretty much hated the idea of direct boxing into the system. He actually used a really expensive ($4000) mic specifically for noise gating the average amp hum... not all of us have the luxury of such a toy - but an average pencil mic does wonders on the home system. I don't think you'll ever quite get the tone as solid by lining into a box as just setting up a mic in front of the amp but hey that's just my opinion :-)

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