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So Im here b/c my last few members have all resorted to the use of meth and other street drugs and wish to find new...un druggy people to replace the ones that now spend there days and nights fillaging through trash cans and dreamin of lepricons and unicorns and such. Im 16 buy im an amazing guitarist. My insparation is J. Satriany. I didnt spell his name right though. Ive played for 4 years and can play tons of instruments. Just need to know were to look to find people in my area. So if you know any...i would be verry happy if u could tell me =). Thnks alot ppls.

Dylan Loven
Guitarist of KOK...
Killing off Ken

Some younger friends of mine from Ozark might be right down your alley. You can check them out at www.myspace.com/cradlescythe if you want. I listened to "I suffer too". Pretty good stuff. Where did you record that?

wish to find new...un druggy people

that's funny!

try craigslist

i recorded i suffer too in my downstairs lol...yeah i have a sound board and system in my basement/room...its like a downstaris just underground so i get some pretty good reverb down there lol.
Thnks Kramer dude...i needed a nice craigslist joke to start my day.
And when i add these ppl on myspace should i tell them you told me bout them...if so im gonna need a name or something that they will know you buy...and thnks alot you guys...ill have more stuff uploaded soon i promise...come check it out if a while ill have more songs.

Just one thing: never call yourself "amazing." No matter how good you are, you're not. This, generally, turns people away [like myself, for example].
Having said that, good luck. And Satch is awesome ofcourse.

Comparing yourself to Satch is like saying you have a 5ft dick.

If you don't prove it, you just look like one.

Capt. Scott wrote:Comparing yourself to Satch is like saying you have a 5ft dick.

If you don't prove it, you just look like one.

well when I was 16, I sure as hell thought I was amazing too. I sure got worse over the years, either that, or I wasn't really so amazing.

im very sorry my little dragon figure friend but i dont remember ever callig myself amazing...I do know tho that calling my self amazing does seem like it would bring my self esteem up thus playing better...you probably arent so good b/c u dont call urself amazing...u should try it. lol...

Even if you are amazing, if you say so and someone hears you, they sure as hell won't think you are.

Be smart, save your ego-pumping remarks for reporters and the like.
They obviously want to be deluged in positive remarks regardless of what you really think.

A better way to pat yourself on the back and not have everyone that heard you hate your guts, is to say that you "thought WE did a great job on (song)." HUMILITY- try it.. it's what's for lunch these days.

PS DYLAN in your very first post, you say "Im 16 buy im an amazing guitarist." What is truly amazing is that you can't punctuate --I'm= I am, not IM and you mean BTW, not BUY.. I gather school is not so AMAZING for you..

I'd say that you and Ryan have something in common, musically. Then again I wouldn't want to insult Ryan that badly. He at least seems to have a firm grasp on reality and realizes that only via hard work does anything good come.. You can pump and preen all you like, jr. Won't make a diff.

I know one thing Mr. 16 year old Satriani, no one is going to want to put up with your bullshit 'tude and if you meet the right bunch of guys, they are going to kick the fudge out of you. That might be good though, as it will save you the plastic surgery to remove that stupid childlike look from your pudgy face and educate you on becoming a motivator of men or in other words a LEADER, as that's really what you need to be to float your own thing.

wait why am i even taking advice from a guy with a cheap acoustic and a Shure SM58...sounds like you havent been playing very long my friend...

I like how you put these little remarks togeather in hope's of actually making some since. I let you know if your looking for a leader then go somewere else...im just a musician...no not just...i am a musician its what i do and how i live my live. Ive met bands like A.F.I and The Unhealing and taken advice from some of the best people in the world and you my friend did a pretty good job of putting some bullshit remarks and semi inteligent combacks togeather but you not fooling anyone. I see the small unmature little being that you are. Your skum just like the rest of the musician's that think by giving advice to a younge insired boy is giving him alot of bs to try and make me angry. Well i will be honest...it did make me angry. But not b/c of what you said but b/c of how u did it. You try and make fun of me for my grammer and you dont realize maybe its my typing that has a problem. Now i dont know who you think is gonna whip my ass around but i assure you that i love what i do...and people respect that. Im sure the next sh*t to come out of your mouth is trying to say i cant play guitar fast enough. We all know its not about speed...its about repition...two opposite things that when put togeather make a joyfull experience...

See im 16 and can type that bullshit kinda stuff that you did...wow...your really pathetic.
And if you ever disrespect Satriani again...He'll come for you...He's the Chuch Norris of music man...im serious.

Eh? Is that a young upstart that I hear? 16 & an expert on music, knows PPL (in caps), & is a perfect example of o/l ettiquette? WOW!!!

I AM impressed, my young friend!

Now, to business.

#1 - Nice job on "I Suffer Too."

#2 - Too bad about your druggie buddies.

#3 - Too bad about your tendency to overreact to helpful criticism, no matter its form or from where it comes. But pobody's nerfect.

#4 - You really haven't been "playing a long time." That term is relative, &, since I am 54, "a long time" encompasses temporal realms way beyond your comprehension. Perhaps you should say that you've been playing for a goodly portion of your very short lifetime.

#5 - From what I heard on that 1st tune, I wouldn't call you "amazing," but the material didn't call for "amazing," did it? If you want to show examples of your "amazing" skills, I'd suggest that you put your best, most challenging recording up 1st in line. Most prospects don't listen to everything you have up, esp when you come across with such attitude in response to a little heckling or constructive criticism.

#6 - Your profile says you're 18, but your post says you are 16. Be honest somewhere, or fix your mistake, or whatever.

#7 - Not everyone gives a damn about your idol. I happen to be one of them who doesn't. While I'll admit that he's a good player, I don't listen to his stuff, & couldn't care less about how close you are to his skills (which I greatly doubt, considering your age & overblown ego, & that which I've heard thus far).

#8 - There is a huge difference between "good grammar" & being able to communicate well. The word you're looking for is "immature," & not "unmature." If you were more mature, & better read, perhaps you'd know that.

#9 - No one in the world gives a good gawd damn about how you see yourself, other than to notice when your ego is bigger than your overall skills, junior, so don't bother telling me how well you can do any given task - PROVE IT. Thus far you have not. The mix was good, the playing adequate, but it wasn't what I would call a challenging piece of music. I could have done as well, & I've never been more than a rhythm player for the last 39 years, & a bass player for a mere 11 (which you would have had to start at the age of 5 to match, Mr Math Whiz). Nor do we care about all that great equipment that your parents shelled out all that money for. Know why? Because we EARNED ours, & bought it with our OWN money, AND we know how to use it, & use it well. I guarantee that there are well over 20 ppl right here in the forums who can play circles around your amazing self, & that doesn't count the thousands more in bandmix who DON'T come to the forums. So, in reality, you ain't all that, bud.

#10 - I'd like to see you coming off as a little more "shy" like you do on stage, cuz what you have done in this thread makes me dislike you greatly, & look down on you as another one of those wannabes who is all attitude & no skill. Back the hell off & try again, cuz this approach is never going to work for you. You want to get your ass up on shoulders with me, Mr Diaperpants, you'll lose every time. I've been entertaining audiences for over twice your lifetime, & I'm still at it. You want to tell me how lame that is?

#11 - You'd best grow some thicker skin if you intend to be a musician or ANY kind of entertainer, because there are a gazillion ppl out there who will eat you alive if you continue to show this kind of weakness. When someone says something you don't like, you need to either laugh it off or ignore it. If you came across like this on or off a stage around these parts in a bar, you'd get your little ass kicked right there in the place, while the entire audience watched & laughed at you.

I have met & jammed with some very excellent players. I have opened for big name acts as a soloist. I've been on TV AND radio, but you don't see me bragging about it, & the only reason I'd bother telling you here, is to show you that there are a lot of us on this forum who have some huge, impressive resumes (pronounced "reh-zoo-mays") who might be willing to help a young guy just starting out, IF he comes to us with humility & a desire to do the best that he can do. To those that come to us with grandiose claims of their "amazing" skills, without the music to back them up, or with a contentious attitude, we pick on them & make them look & feel as small as they really are.

Adjust your attitude or f**k off, it really makes no difference to me, cuz I, like most of the rest of the world, don't give a damn about you as long as you act like a spoiled little kid, who's mommy has bought some really nice toys for, that doesn't even know how to use them well.

Oh yeah - welcome to the forum.

I'm truly amazing...and good looking too...and entertaining...and a great athlete...and a great fisherman...and a helluva blues singer...(just letting you all know how full of myself I am).

Uhh....Bob, ya left out "Humble".

Hey lad. Never mind it all. People are good here and the advice is meant with good intention most of the time. Sometimes we need to pull nettles to get to the rich soil.. basically, the people who care will be straight up, even when that seems brutal.

Love that track 'I suffer too'. Keep up the good work.

Just remember that charisma is not a chip on our shoulders. We're more attractive when we ignore our egos and instead radiate the passion we have for the music. That never seems to fail.

Good luck, mate.