Musician Forum - Band Discussion Board - BandMix

Nothing.

Andragon wrote:Yea, after 3 months of teaching myself the guitar, I got the balls to post one of my jams. No overdubs, some reverb.. and some singing cause I couldn't resist.

NOTE: TURN UP YOUR VOLUME TO THE MAX. Trust me; it's quiet.

Some is heavy, some is soft, some is blues (yep).
Most of it is original, but in the middle I jammed to some MetallicA >.<

There's off/dead notes and I know where they are, but it was a straight jam, so no editing. It's on my profile.

Andragon I've enjoyed your guitar work in progress, what I heard tells me that you are able to make clean chord changes which is the first problem to overcome for developing guitar players, infact I believe that you are at the point of being able to learn chords of a not too demanding acustic piece (at first) with vocals and post a complete song I'm sure you heard few tunes with just guitar and vocals, there is nothing better then being able to sing and back yourself up with an instrument.

Good going man keep at it, as you gain more strength in your left hand things will become easier.

Looking to hear more as you progress.

shoot you're doing better then I am, you can really sing...ofcourse I'm a bassist so when I start messin round with lead styles no one wants to hear it, I'm just supposed to be content holding up a flashy guitarist (gah I hate this area)

Ted, I'll upload later a lil "bass line" I play on the acoustic [it actually sounds good]. It should sound really good on bass if someone knows how to bass-slap as well.

Thanks for the comments. It really isn't all that special and sorta repetitive at parts.

Hello Andrew,
I am running the track as I write.
I can hear your classical and Spanish influence a lot.
What strikes me is the absense of complete stops and cockups; it finds its way with purpose and stays interesting.
Nice soulful singing here! Like a negro spiritual.
Cheers,
Mark......................

Negro? Can we say that?

Making progress Andrew? Good! Work out some finger gym. Direct placement and good fretting technique is crucial and more difficult with acoustic.

Well...I've been waiting for this from you, Andy.

Okay...um....dude? The lil noodling doesn't do much for me...but I am glad to see that you got your guitar. It sounds pretty okay on here, too.

You have a very mature, bluesy voice, & that's a good thing. Did you play some of the acoustic guitar stuff on Dead Or Alive?

Are ya able to sing & play at the same time yet? I haven't a clue how long you've been at it.

So what guitar did you settle on in the end?

Philby is being nice.

I enjoyed your acoustic jam-session Andy. I think it's good to post up a some whimsical off-the-cuff stuff sometimes. I think it was Kramerguy who also did some "shameless wanking". I may get the balls and post up some of my own sh*t soon . Sounds like fun
Good voice btw.

Capt, I didn't expect you to like acoustic shyt anyway. I remember you said you don't like professionals performing on acoustics. Now imagine a 3-month self-taught player having a lil fun. Ha, at least, you weren't a dick bout it.

Phil, didn't do much? Yea, I know lol. It's not much and it's not your typical guitar playing with tons of boring chords, one after the other. So, I wouldn't expect everyone to enjoy a beginner anyway. Anyways, no I didn't play on Dead or Alive. I sang.

Yes, I can sing and play some things at the same time [I see you stopped listening before halfway through ].

Oh and I think you mean the bass not the acoustic. I've had the acoustic for bout a year now, just haven't had enough time to practise on my own.
It's a Norman H20. Cheap Made-in-Quebec acoustic. I'm getting the bass at the end of this summer [hopefully].

Thanks to the rest.

It's. . . different. That definitely wasn't the direction I went after 3 months of guitar. It sounds like you're doing a lot of playing around with a lot of different ideas early on, and that's a good thing. Keep it up.

Your voice is very classic rock. Cool.

Andy - I actually did listen all the way through. I just wasn't sure if you dubbed the voice in after.

It might be a cheapo, but it has a good bottom end, which I like a lot, without sounding too middy, & the highs still cut through. Does it feel good to your hand?

You're getting it together. Good work on the Metallica, too. Most of my beginning students have a passion to learn that. Your timing is good, & that's a must.

For easier stuff that you can work on, may I suggest "Eighteen" by Alice Cooper (Em C D with a lil walk on the 6th string), & "You Aint Goin' Nowhere" by Dylan (G Am C). It's good to be able to play ANYTHING all the way through when you're 1st getting started, & these two won't tax you too much, yet still challenge you on timing, chord changes, & then you can dress 'em up a bit as you develop.

I'd guess that you probably aren't into a lot of the acoustic stuff I do, but it's a good place to start off. And just what's wrong with chords going over & over, anyway? Damn, dude! That's mostly what I do! LOL

Yea, that's what I mean. My music style is different. I can sorta adapt to different styles of rock, metal and blues, but a wholesome mix of all is what I like the most. Mark got it right though. Listening to classical [Bach specifically], some spanish and eastern styles took a [good] toll on my playing hehe

I bet if I spend more time learning some theory, I'd be able to piece things together nicely. But right now, I don't have enough time to delve into something as deep as theory. I've read a few articles and had someone explain a few things to me.. some made sense, but some went over my head.

And thanks for the recommendations. I'll see what I can do. I actually like Eighteen. The lyrics could apply to me a few years back lol
I'm taking it out now.

yah learning theory is a huge help, I'm still scratchin at the surface, I'm getting clues about key's and scales when I play around, I'm decent on the slap shyt though, its fun learned outta necessity cuz I didn't have my amp working when I first got my bass and just went with it, maybe we outta put together a jam for us new englanders/eastern canadians (like yourself) maybe even a lil online collaboration that'd be scary though huh?

To be honest, the more music you learn to play, the more you'll absorb most of the theory like a sponge soaking up water. The more songs & chords you learn to apply to this song or that, the more you'll learn what notes & what chords work well together.

You've been a singer for awhile now, haven't you? You already have some of the basics in your head without even thinking about it. When you think in terms of harmony notes to sing, you're already working out the chords, believe it or not. It should be easier for you to apply that knowledge to the guitar, once you start to get into it.

Don't try too hard to make it too hard, or you'll lose interest fast. It all seems rather overwhelming at 1st. Just learn the chords to some songs 1st, & then some melody lines, & it will come as you go.