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So I went to my first 'protest' in DC on Wednesday...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:26 am
by Kramerguy
It was the "Green our Vaccines Rally".

We gathered at the wash monument and marched to the capitol and they held an information rally, as well as had some doctors and specialists speak, RFK, jr spoke, and then Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey also both spoke. I learned a few things , which surprised me, as I do a LOT of homework on this topic, being that my daughter is autistic.

What I learned:

In 1983, kids were vaccinated for a total of 10 diseases between birth and the age of 5. The occurrence of autism was 1 in 10,000.
In 2006, kids were vaccinated for a total of 36 diseases between birth and 4 years old. The occurrence of autism was 1 in 150.

Added into these vaccines since 1983:
Formaldehyde
Aluminum Sulfate
Aluminum
Anti-freeze
Fetal tissue
few other pointless chemicals...

Also, although the CDC publically announced in 2001 that they removed thermisol (key ingredient which is made of mercury), they in fact lied. An independent study found more than 60% of vaccines today still contain thermisol.

But to the topic of "green the vaccines"...
The point of the rally was not to be "anti-vaccine" but to actually properly administer them. Currently, the system is broken.

Vaccines are the only administered drugs in the USA that have not been tested nor approved by the FDA.

Vaccines are the only drug where side effects are not documented, nor are doctors required to discuss side effects.

Vaccines are the only administered drugs that do not differentiate dosages between a 7 pound newborn baby and a 240 pound adult male. Both get the same shot, same dose.

Even though there is genetic proof of a disposition of some children to be especially susceptible to the toxins in the vaccines, there is no program or plans to create a program to properly test these children before giving them a vaccine shot.


Whether you believe in this or not, you have to admit, there is a 'better safe than sorry' aspect we should at least be investigating. The government spent YEARS denying autism, then spent several years more covering it up.

Did you know that there are several clauses slipped into different bills protecting the drug companies, pediatric physicians, and ALL of the government agencies like the fda, CDC, dept of health and human svcs, etc.. from legal actions? Bills like the energy bill, the f**k patriot act, it's unbelievable.

Google Simpson-woods sometime and prepare yourself to be shocked.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:50 am
by HowlinJ
Kramerguy,

Sounds cool, but, for what is worth, none of those people that you mentioned are scientist or docters, so I would take it all with a grain of salt.

I'm old enough to remember seeing a lot of people with polio. Haven't seen any lately. Why do you think that is?

your ol' sceptical pal,
Howlin'

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:03 am
by Kramerguy
HowlinJ wrote:Kramerguy,

Sounds cool, but, for what is worth, none of those people that you mentioned are scientist or docters, so I would take it all with a grain of salt.

I'm old enough to remember seeing a lot of people with polio. Haven't seen any lately. Why do you think that is?

your ol' sceptical pal,
Howlin'


They did have a few doctors and specialists speak, I just can't remember their names and I'm too tired right now to go look them up.

I know you are skeptical, most people are, but consider that any mainstream news site prints articles without providing cites to references, hell, foxnews even won a florida court case claiming they have the constitutional right to lie.. and yeah, they friggin won.

Go to independent internet news sites (takes time to find good ones), and you will find that the good ones will cite ALL their references to the facts.

As far as mumps go, I don't disagree, but how many cases in the last year? It's a case to cite jim carey, of a firetruck racing down the street to save someone from a fire, running over groups of people as it races along. Nobody is suggesting that the fire company shuts down, they are only suggesting that the truck slows down and stops runnin over ppl.

They keep telling everyone is coincidence. It's not. There have been lies upon lies issued by the government. The fact you have a hard time believing tells me that the CDC ad campaign got to you, and you probably never even noticed they had one. First they come out and say they ruled out mercury (which only theirs and big-pharma-backed studies found)
then they say that there's no thermisol in the vaccines when there still is...

it's all lies.

Again, google Simpson-Woods and begin an intellectual journey. I would bet $1000 that Vaccines&Autism have had a negative impact on someone you know.

Check out youtube and search for the "green our vaccines" "june 4th" "autism rally" and see some of the speeches. It's pretty telling.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:45 am
by fisherman bob
China started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's. Prior to this there was virtually no known cases of autism in China, now there's over one million autistic people in China. Coincidence? You do the math. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:47 am
by fisherman bob
Sorry for the multiple posts. My computer must have srewed up. Later...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:05 am
by Shredd6
Hey Bob..

What Country started mass vaccine distribution in the early 1990's ??

:D