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I uploaded a new file called Gently Crushing. Tell me what you think. Be honest, and when I say honest I mean devastating if need be.

Thanks all.

Good job Weg! Obviously reminds me of Satch. Maybe develop the riffs a little more but overall I liked it.

Thanks for your time and comments Jimmy.

For the record that is one take improvised on the fly for both the backing track and the melody.

By the way I love your tune Olympus Mons. Very original.

Thanks again Weg. That tune's now 10 years old, hard to believe. I'm actually getting ready to record some electric stuff myself.

Your tune is pretty awesome for improvised. You're a good player. Have you ever seen Satriani?

its not too bad at all..your a good player but i think it needs a little bit more structure,a hook to stand out over all the add lib solo stuff and it could be great..but i wouldnt want to have to put vocals over it as its very busy and hard to pin down a solid melody but apart from that its cool..alittle bit more t.l.c and time and im sure it will only get better keep it up wegman.

jimmydanger wrote:Thanks again Weg. That tune's now 10 years old, hard to believe. I'm actually getting ready to record some electric stuff myself.

Your tune is pretty awesome for improvised. You're a good player. Have you ever seen Satriani?

Thanks again.

I am only looking for comments on the playing, not on the composition. That is improvised. Play me a chord progression and in one take that is what I can do from a solo standpoint.

I have seen Satriani and I have heard many people comment that my style is similair. The funny thing is I have never tried to emulate Satriani and he is not one of my major influneces.

I will be interested to hear your electric stuff Jimmy.

irish anthony wrote:its not too bad at all..your a good player but i think it needs a little bit more structure,a hook to stand out over all the add lib solo stuff and it could be great..but i wouldnt want to have to put vocals over it as its very busy and hard to pin down a solid melody but apart from that its cool..alittle bit more t.l.c and time and im sure it will only get better keep it up wegman.

Thanks for taking the time Irish Anthony and your comments.

Other than you misspelled "Gently" it's pretty awesome Weg.

Koolin82 wrote:Other than you misspelled "Gently" it's pretty awesome Weg.

My spell checker says that's good. Hmmm......

Thanks for your time and comments Koolin. I appreciate it.

54 views on this thread and 3 people took the time to comment.

Geez.

Thanks to all who do comment.

The rest of you make me sad.

Wegman,

Number one I like the basic idea of this song. I listened a couple of times and the group Ratt comes to mind, dont take this in a bad way but it sounds like an 80s hair band song. Which I personally like.

Tonaly your guitar sounds great. Its heavy without sounding flabby if that makes sense. The first solo sounds like Satch, Im seeing Crystal Planet era. Theres a lick you do twice at around the 1:00 mark that is killer, you do it twice and being the sonic thief I am, I will probably steal that little lick. Around the 1:20 mark you have some great pinch harmonics going which is pure Les Paul/Marshall and good touch, some guys I know over use these but you throw them in tastefully. Around the 2:00 mark the solo and rythym seem to fall apart for me. In fact its kind of wide from there on out, but considering that you just threw this down on the fly its not that big a deal.

I would save this song. Im listening thru computer speakers with a sub and the drums and bass sound like mud. I cant get any real definition on the lower end. Did you use some kind of sub harmonizer or an octave device on the guitar for the bass? It sounds that way to me. I dont guess that they matter that much. you are mainly showcasing your guitar work.
Im hearing a nice reverb, an Alesis unit maybe on the guitar. Some people over do the reverb but you have just enough on the guitar to give it that coliseum/arena rock sound.

Once again the tone is great and the feel is great up until the 2 minute mark.

JW

jw123 wrote:Wegman,

Number one I like the basic idea of this song. I listened a couple of times and the group Ratt comes to mind, dont take this in a bad way but it sounds like an 80s hair band song. Which I personally like.

Tonaly your guitar sounds great. Its heavy without sounding flabby if that makes sense. The first solo sounds like Satch, Im seeing Crystal Planet era. Theres a lick you do twice at around the 1:00 mark that is killer, you do it twice and being the sonic thief I am, I will probably steal that little lick. Around the 1:20 mark you have some great pinch harmonics going which is pure Les Paul/Marshall and good touch, some guys I know over use these but you throw them in tastefully. Around the 2:00 mark the solo and rythym seem to fall apart for me. In fact its kind of wide from there on out, but considering that you just threw this down on the fly its not that big a deal.

I would save this song. Im listening thru computer speakers with a sub and the drums and bass sound like mud. I cant get any real definition on the lower end. Did you use some kind of sub harmonizer or an octave device on the guitar for the bass? It sounds that way to me. I dont guess that they matter that much. you are mainly showcasing your guitar work.
Im hearing a nice reverb, an Alesis unit maybe on the guitar. Some people over do the reverb but you have just enough on the guitar to give it that coliseum/arena rock sound.

Once again the tone is great and the feel is great up until the 2 minute mark.

JW

Great call JW. Yes, the bottom end is mush. I have a great pair of studio monitors that I can't get used to. I have since added a sub and that has helped alot. This is an old tune I just dug up so it predates my sub and the master tracks have long since been deleted.

I am using a Zoom drum machine and from kit to kit the sound changes dramtically. One kit is super clean, and the next mud. Since it is only a stereo unit, I can't isolate one particular drum and doctor it and eq-ing the whole kit changes everything.

Next that is an Alesis Quadaverb, (the old one) and I do like the arena/live type of sound. Early VH albums and the echo on Eddies guitar. I am toying with a cleaner less airy sound, since I just changed valves in my Marshall and it changed my whole tone and approach. So I am working on getting used to that.

I am really looking for comments on the playing. I can compose better if I take the time. This was thrown together on the fly. I find it interesting that you don't like the change in there around the 2 minute mark. I love that change and how I transitioned from the one part to other especially without planning it of course, maybe that is why it doesn't work!

Thanks for your time and comments JW.

EDIT:

JW I checked out your stuff (finally). Great work mate. Excellent mixes, nice and clean and original sounding. I love the harmony on the guitar on The Day Jesus Died. Is that you singing? Love the singer and the harmonies.

What kind of gear are you recording on?

Wegman wrote:54 views on this thread and 3 people took the time to comment.

Geez.

Thanks to all who do comment.

The rest of you make me sad.

Tell it to a priest. LOL

3 comments on these boards is good bro. I ask people to comment on my songs and get NOTHING usually. LOL

If I had to base my songs on comments from musicians here, I would have had to retire a long time ago. Luckily I get great feedback in many other places.

As to your song...

Good job. You got chops, that's for sure. My only critique would be to have more definitive changes through the song, to keep it interesting. Of course, if you intend for this to have vocals, that may be negated.

I'd like to hear you with a worthy band sometime brother!

yo Wegdoode..
I like your stuff generally.
It' now a little outside my genre of choice, so I don't feel too qualified to comment in any depth.

cool.
R

Craig Maxim wrote:

Wegman wrote:54 views on this thread and 3 people took the time to comment.

Geez.

Thanks to all who do comment.

The rest of you make me sad.

Tell it to a priest. LOL

3 comments on these boards is good bro. I ask people to comment on my songs and get NOTHING usually. LOL

If I had to base my songs on comments from musicians here, I would have had to retire a long time ago. Luckily I get great feedback in many other places.

As to your song...

Good job. You got chops, that's for sure. My only critique would be to have more definitive changes through the song, to keep it interesting. Of course, if you intend for this to have vocals, that may be negated.

I'd like to hear you with a worthy band sometime brother!

Craig,

Thanks for your input and time.

I wish I could find a "worthy band"

Well rest assured if you ever ask for input I will be happy to respond.