Ancient Vegan wrote:Hey pg nobody was saying what you think is a real musician or not.
it's called conversation, lynard....and if i choose to take it somewhere that YOU have trouble seeing the connect to, or you can't see the correlation, you're too confused to find the link to....that's YOUR problem. just try to follow along the best you can. and look...ME going there allowed YOU the op to follow up w some lame attempt at another slam. so, see.....it did open the door to further conversation.
Likes, posts, shares, sells, radio playtime, ascap payments, are all ways are current society
judges your musical ability, like it or not. They don't come and ask you, they go to the sources we've
been using in the current music period.
again...that's YOUR OPINION. mine (and other's) do differ.
by THAT definition Taylor Swift is a better musician than John Scofield. How silly.
"obsessing on that silliness" is one way to look at it, or if your driven it could mean goals, and the little
steps along the way to reach these goals.
yes..if your GOAL is to make as much money as possible in the music BUSINESS. But not so if your goal is to produce the best music, or what any particular artist sees as their best music. Not so if your GOAL is to be the best you can be on your instrument.
Not everyone plays music music to make a lot of money. And that being the case....POPULARITY...what YOU use to measure success... is not relevant to how someone else defines "successful".
You are using MONEY and POPULARITY as your yardstick of "success"...your choice. But it ain't mine, nor is it the yardstick for lots of great musicians who are doing what they love...playing music regularly for people who enjoy listening to it.....even if those musicians are NOT selling as many units as Taylor Swift. I consider Pat Martino just as succesful (actually waaaaaay more so) than T.S..... if you can't figure out why that is....keep working on it. But don't hurt yourself.
The only way to measure "YOUR worth as a musician" to believe in yourself, well to measure your wealth today it is
customarily done with likes, shares, posts, sales, airtime, the amount of dollars you can command at a venue.
that's nothing more than POPULARITY. i bet you thought the most "popular" kid in school was also the BEST too.
That is so cool that none of that means anything to you, it does to alot of musicians, why do you think so many
are trying to make it in the music INDUSTRY.
to each his own. not everyone who is in a band is ready, and willing to whatever it takes (sell out) to be POPULAR. many play music to express themselves and share their visions, their art, their politics.....and if they can can make a buck at it.....or even support themselves w enough money to afford to do that.....they're cool w it. and no doubt many of them would consider themselves "successful" for being able to do what they love. you'd argue the point (you LOVE to argue) but i wouldn't. Because your definition of "success" is based solely on MONEY EARNED and POPULARITY.
look, we get it....they're not making a lot of money...not everyone knows their name....and that means they're NOT SUCCESSFUL IN LYNARDS VIEW. Good for you....enjoy your view, and ballhoo it all you like. i'll do the same (and enjoy a good chuckle each time that i do, seeing how it bugs the crap out of you!)
almost as good for a laugh, and as enjoyable as you watching you lose your $hit every time someone uses the quote function in a reply!
You don't worry one iota and waste zero time obsessing over who I can play better than, yet to quote you
"And I'll gladly waste as much time as required to call you and you out as a liars when you pull that crap"
Sounds like you need to reevaluate your priorities.
whether it's you looking to pick fights w me over my views that differ from your's, or it's you wasting your time going thru my old posts to quote me.....or it's me, "wasting" MY time calling out those who lie about Mike's and my gigs.....we all choose what we'll waste time on, eh? Priorities..it's whuts fer dinner.
It's great your not worried about any of the trappings of the music business to confirm your musical worth.
LOL...yeah...it's plainly obvious just how "great" you think that is!
No, that bugs you to no end for some reason...but what ever floats yer boat, pal.
They call it a business for a reason, they measure success. If you want industry accepted success you should gear
your goals towards what the industry claims to be successful.
....ah, maybe there IS some slight glimmer of hope for you to comprehend this after all!
see, you gottit, right there... I'm not, nor have i EVER been looking for "industry accepted success". maybe that's why YOU picked up a gtr, but that's NEVER been why i picked up a gtr.
" gear your goals towards what the industry claims to be successful."
so i can be the next Taylor Swift??? thanks...not interested.
If not continue being a star on this forum and the
venues you currently play at.
lynard, lynard, lynard....dude, don't be such a hater. it's a bad look for you. you're the one hung up on popularity and the who's always talking up the value of "star power". me i'm happy doing what i do. accept that or don't.
