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Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:50 pm
by DainNobody
I think Imma gonna pass now that I know there is not a PA at the club..even an open Mic night should have at least one of those 200 dollar 4 channel self powered Behringer PAs

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:46 pm
by GuitarMikeB
What kind of 'club'? Is it an open mic? I've read of a couple of places that are completely acoustic, but they are typically 'in the round' kind of events. not playing on a stage or out to a room that's listening.

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:43 pm
by DainNobody
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Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by DainNobody
I was asked to come play or pick.. Not preferable to pick solo although I could but Faron said he would do it as a duo..no pay but maybe could work into that.but have not accepted nice to have been asked. But without a PA? Don't know that would work

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:46 pm
by GuitarMikeB
Once you play for free (or 'cheap') , they never want to pay you.
Assume there's a bar, and you'd be playing in that room, competing with the pool tables, tvs and general talk. Gotta have amps!

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:32 pm
by Ancient Vegan
Rent a pa system

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:57 pm
by GuitarMikeB
Ancient Vegan wrote:Rent a pa system

Only if they're going to pay you!

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:37 pm
by DainNobody
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... pa40bt-pro. Want this but Faron my duo partner has no money to go 1/2sies

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:05 pm
by DainNobody
and since the Behringer rig is battery powered we could do busking at swap meet with no problems..Butch has wanted us to turn it up.. but you can only do so much with an un-amplified acoustic flat top guitar(Faron).. and me, with an electric guitar with VOX MINI-3 battery powered amp also.. :)

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:15 pm
by DainNobody
this looks nice..but not battery powered
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Harbinger/M ... peakers.gc

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:39 pm
by Ancient Vegan
It seems obvious to me, you want to play out, you've identified one of the obstacles, no pa system. Get a pa system and you can move on to the next problem that is holding you back from your goal of playing out.

And Mike says never play for free, I say everytime I've played in a church (been 7 or 8 years ago), I always payed them when I played. If you wanta play for free that's your decision, you can always pass the hat. :)

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:34 pm
by GuitarMikeB
The only times you should play in a commercial venue for free are benefits, or for a charitable place.

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:45 pm
by DainNobody
ohhhh..but now we are getting into another problem concerning money gig..s pro setups, etc. an age old problem that left a bad taste in my mouth back in the 1980's in Florida when I did get paid gigs every weekend.. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EQUIPMENT COSTS AND UPKEEP/MAINTENANCE? ..is it up to me to flip the bill? am I the one that is responsible to purchase the needed gear? or should all the band members (2 ea.) divvy up the cost? :)

Re: Performing w/o a PA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:30 pm
by GuitarMikeB
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:ohhhh..but now we are getting into another problem concerning money gig..s pro setups, etc. an age old problem that left a bad taste in my mouth back in the 1980's in Florida when I did get paid gigs every weekend.. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EQUIPMENT COSTS AND UPKEEP/MAINTENANCE? ..is it up to me to flip the bill? am I the one that is responsible to purchase the needed gear? or should all the band members (2 ea.) divvy up the cost? :)


Dayne - there's no set answer for that. It has to be discussed with the other band members. Typically, going into a new band situation, one person has THIS equipment and one person has THAT equipment. So if THIS breaks, does the owner of the gear foot the whole bill? If the band pays to fix it, then doesn't the band own part of it now? If the band buys some gear with earnings (or everyone kicking in), what happens when the band breaks up, or one person leaves? All these permutations need to be worked out up front.

On a different note - regarding battery-operated amps/PAs: there are a lot of choices now, what works for you depends on 1) how many instruments/mics need to be plugged in at one time; 2) how much volume is needed.
I picked up a Mugig amp form Amazon for $99. Rechargable Lithium battery, mic and instrument inputs, little 6" speaker. It's not loud, but it's louder than no amplification. Came with a shoulder strap and the battery (some portable amps make you pay for the battery pack separately). It'll be good for busking, better if I can find a headset mic to use instead of having to haul a mic stand around.