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So...I've more or less given up on really finding people that are both interested and/or talented that are into the same kind of music that I am. Face to face that is. Denver seems to be chock full of people into metal, funk, vanilla rock, punk and so on. Nothing wrong with that, but just not my thing.

Basically, I'm thinking that I'd still like to do a recording project and trade tracks back and forth with someone to find out what could come together musically from it. Over the Internet. FTP, email, whatever works. The key being that people have access to recording gear/software/etc. and that they are into the same style of music as I am. Also that they have some creative input to give. Even if it's just someone that fancies themselves as a 'producer' and would like to lend an ear and technical expertise to a project.

So, if anyone is interested. I'm looking at doing something along the lines of Mogwai and Explosions in the Sky. I have my own recording setup. MIDI controller into my Mac using Logic Express and Reason 3 together. Musician-wise, I'm really a guitarist and use my guitar either amp/mic or via a PODxt, recording into Logic Express 7. Looking for others, doesn't matter instrument, guitars, bass, drums, programming, even vocals. I'll get some previously recorded tracks up on my profile one of these days.

I doubt this is wholely original. I mean Postal Service is out there. Thier circumstances are far different. But I'm thinking that people rarely use the Internet for music collaboration per se and rather for communication and just as a more broad advertising medium. /shrug Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe just a dumb idea.

If interested, post here, or drop me a line. Oh yeah, my profile has other influences and all that.

Thanks,

Jeremy

Edit: I've found: http://www.ninjam.com/index.php (Cool idea. I mean, really cool idea, and seems it could have some uses for a recording project that is separated by distance.)

_Jeremy_ wrote:So...I've more or less given up on really finding people that are both interested and/or talented that are into the same kind of music that I am. Face to face that is. Denver seems to be chock full of people into metal, funk, vanilla rock, punk and so on. Nothing wrong with that, but just not my thing..

I think you will find this sentiment and experience echoed almost everywhere. I know its the same in my town. I had to search for players for MONTHS by digging through the sea of butt rockers, heavy metal heads, punks and screamers.

Best of luck with long distance recording. It can be done but it takes some real discipline and a different set of communication skills then you may be used to.

Below are some sites with varied levels of online recording and/or jamming for musicians to collaborate online together. Some of these are just for recording, while others are for actual jamming, where you play LIVE with other musicians, and even an audience "attends" your performance, and can, for example cheer or jeer through their comments, while you're playing in real time.


http://www.ejamming.com/

http://indabamusic.com/

http://www.jamglue.com/

http://jamnow.com/

http://www.ninjam.com/

http://www.splicemusic.com/

www.myvirtualband.com appeare to be offline now unfortunately. I have seen various musicians come up with some great stuff on that site. I am sure that some of these others would be like that as well.

I'm not really concerned with online jamming per se. It's a cool concept, and I can see the value in it. It's more like, I'm older now, don't want to relocate to some flavor o' the month city where there are likely to be a bunch of 20 year olds that have the same musical tastes as I do.

The online stuff is neat, but trading tracks via cdr's would work too. Was just thinking that I'm more apt to find someone that is like me, into the same music, able and willing to record and program music on the Internet. And maybe there's someone out there that wants to give it a try.

I'm one of those people that feels like I can take a song 80% of the way there, but can't ever finish it on my own. I certainly don't have the recording expertise to do it. Would also like to find someone with creative ideas...I guess I'm looking for someone else in the same boat. A mirror image of me.

*Ok, I uploaded a couple of songs to my profile. Old ones, I don't know how to mix stuff and master, etc. etc.

Irminsul wrote:I think you will find this sentiment and experience echoed almost everywhere. I know its the same in my town. I had to search for players for MONTHS by digging through the sea of butt rockers, heavy metal heads, punks and screamers.

I've never quite understood why there are so many rockers...I've never taken some scientific approach to it, but anecdotally I'd say I've meet way more butt rockers and metal heads than any other type when it comes to looking for musicians. Just not my thing. /sigh

_Jeremy_ wrote:

Irminsul wrote:I've never quite understood why there are so many rockers...I've never taken some scientific approach to it, but anecdotally I'd say I've meet way more butt rockers and metal heads than any other type when it comes to looking for musicians. Just not my thing. /sigh

Just my personal opinion here (uh oh, everybody stand back, I don't know how big this thing gets...) but I think it is because of the allure, during youth, that the whole guitar-band thing has, especially for men. I mean no disrespect to serious guitarists out there, but you know what I mean....strapping on the ol' noisemaker/penis extender and howling for any women that may be in the crowd. Volume covers up substance, etc etc etc. And yes, that was me at 18, too.

But then that particular experience becomes stamped with the other allure of fame and fortune. Guitar + poofy hair + pout = sex and money.
Every passing year becomes a little more urgent, but the hope holds out that "if I can just find the right people, we still have a shot at Madison Square Gardens". One's twenty-something years turn to thirty-somethings. Then fourty-somethings. But the "allure" is still so stamped in the head, that its tenacious grip on the psyche has become permanent and in many cases robbed the person of training and experience in other forms of music or performance venues. They are, in effect, stunted for life, chasing a Dragon that is continually out-pacing them on the horizon. When other opportunities in music present themselves, other gigs, other session jobs that require knowledge or skill outside of the Great Butt Rocker Dream, they can only stare and shrug.

Sorry if that seems a little dysmal and harsh, but its what I have observed. And it has scared me so bad that I have made a point of continually varying my experience and training so I do not end up 60 something with no idea how to read a lead sheet someone has given me for an avant garde movie score.

That means, of course, that the pickins for people outside of the Great Butt Rocker Dream are very, very slim indeed. But I say keep persevering. I am getting some results even after kicking the bushes for a VERY long time.

I just can't see it happening for me. Nothing will ever replace a bunch of bluesmen (or blueswomen) playing their asses off in a smoky dive. But if it works for anybody else God bless you. Later...your friendly neighborhood bluesman fisherman bob

Howdy Jeremy..
I don't think I recognize a single one of your influences..isn't that awesome!
Best of luck man, I can sympathize with yer plight.
Where I'm at, it seems 90% wanna play metal: not my thing.

Hope you make somethin happen over the net..

cheers!
Rich