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..... because they don't have babies?

Posted this comment as a reply to this drivel....

"I've been reading a thread on RYM about the disparity between male and female musicians, namely how there is such a low percentage of female-majority albums in the charts and only 1 in the Top 100 (Björk).

What are PMC's thoughts on this topic, sexism in the music industry, societal norms for women, and the like?

TL;DR: thoughts on disparity between male and female musicians"

Which is more illiterate pablum you'll get from this particular group of dipshit millennial hipsters.

They wanted the answer that it's all due to sexism. Anything else, they were ready to pounce. My wife is a progressive liberal Democrat, saw no problem with the logic. So, why can't these dufus snowflakes even accept the idea that someone would believe this, much less state it on a forum (or Facebook group, in this instance)?

*And yes, it's political, but it's musical

There are indeed great disparities between the TWO SEXES ... MALE and FEMALE. This abounds in a multitude of instances. Men have longevity over women in a great variety of ways. But let us stick to music ... even though this is true even in Politics . It always has been and always will be. If you discuss this with men I doubt there will be much dissent ... excepting amongst those emasculated. Most women I know will not argue the point either excepting those who have been "freed" of their natural roles and logic.

My sympathies regarding your Wife. Remember it takes a while for the hormones to settle after something major like giving Birth. Mutually creating Life together is a truly wonderous thing however and an excellent opportunity to deepen further your relationship. Congratulations and be patient ... knowing you will never recieve recognition for such. It is just the way it is.

The "Snowflakes" will experience a melting and then they will be simply just "Flakes". Marraige changes one's perspective ... this is my Third Change of Perspective. Creating Life is yet another added Dimension ... losing a Life created yet another. All I know is that the best result is that it all brings you both closer together. Accepting the other facts of Life is then much easier because you are not alone. Much can be borne of frustration, even some good can come of it. Motivation often results and communication is a neccesity when dealing with Female hormones. Quite often they are crazy as Loons. Men are much more reliable and steady and this results in ................ Longevity. I believe.

I'm confused by the term 'female-majority' - does this mean music created by a primarily female group/artist? So a female singer with a male backup band would not count?
Checking the current Billboard Hot 100 and top 200 albums, it is mostly male artists, but there are a few women, and a few groups/duos with women (including Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift). Adele's latest is still in the top 100 albums, Bjork is nowhere to be found, so not sure when the original post was done.
'Longevity' - meaning years that the artists stay at the top? For women that hit fame when they are young, it can be a matter of them getting older (not just having babies!) but also making their millions and then semi-retiring, so perhaps they don't have the 'drive' that some men feel in music?
I got it - it's "HORMONES"!

Mike ... great Post and points ... but there you go with that "Male" Logic. Your Post is for Schmed to answer but "Longevity" means exactly what you stated. " Men age like a good wine and women just whine ." this is what a good friend on mine told me once ... he died last year at age 90.

My Wife just turned 31 in March and I 65 in April. This is the first time in my Life I have been with a woman over 30. We have been married 11 years now. Hormones affect women it seems to me much more so than men. Young girls up to their late twenties are energetic, adventuresome, up for traveling on a shoe string, camping and learning new things. They are romantic and loyal. Then those Hormones kick in and they want to have a baby and "Nest". This changes their focus on you and they become critical and ultra materialistic and if you do not possess the accoutremonts to make them "Happy" then they start "shopping". This has been my experience with virtually all I have had in relationships. I gave up my Band, my music and got a "Bread and Butter" job for my first wife. It nearly killed me.

sorry for the vague nature of the first post. I was referring to women being more likely than men to leave a successful career to have a child/ raise a child than men. Furthermore, it's actually something no man is obligated to do anymore in our society these days. Not saying that's a good thing, but one would assume even these little a-holes know this.

here's the full exchange on my comment. I didn't engage too fully because;
A - they hate my guts and don't believe anything I say anyway.
B - I know I can't change their young minds on this, but hopefully life will. I've been their age, they have not been my age.
C - they're spoiled college pukes who let their feelings on feminism and society shape their reality. If they can shape their own reality, create their own truth, as the college tells them, then what they believe is actually public policy and it's up to society to live up to that standard. They may figure it out one day, tho.

my reply -"Men have longevity in music because they don't have babies. Unpopular, but true"

op - "Nah"

college girl - "y i k e s"

me - "Sinead O'Connor left the Lollapalooza 95 tour due to pregnancy. Can you name the time that happened to a male musician?"

college girl - "Lmao one anecdotal account =/= proof"

college girl - "Male musicians taking time off for family? I could literally Google you a list rn"

college girl - "If we wanna keep up the anecdotes"

me - "Just reply all night. This is fun"

college girl - " If only I wasn't writing a 10 page polisci paper"

me - " Haha!"


some guy - "Last I checked that didn't stop Beyonce's career or anything. Lol"

me - "Very funny. What is she a billionaire?"

2nd girl - "shes a musician, whats your point"

3rd girl - "I'm not sure that's very relevant here tbh"

end of thread for now.

also like this reply for the record.

male commentor - "More males become musicians thus a larger percent of overall best musicians are most likely going to be male."

Thanks for the replies and would like to hear from females on this as well.

Men, when they become successful musicians, continue to do it for the fame, money and girls.

Women, when they become successful musicians, continue to do it for the fame and money, but once they have those, they can stop to do something else (bad acting, raise kids, etc).

Vampier - cradle robber! My wife was 30 when I married her, I was 44.

I guess it's just like in the movies and TV shows. Vampires get the ladies.

Mike ... I have been accused of that. You were almost a decade and a half older ... not bad. Traditionally men have usually been older than their wives in most cultures ... but there are limits absolutely. Case in point the Muslims. It is said that a younger wife is good for your health and makes you live longer. We shall see about that. My Wife's mother tried to poison me.

Young women with their raging hormones and sexual drives do make for an interesting life along with escaping from all those who want to put a stake in your heart. Keeps one on their toes. Schmed ... I love what you have related in this Thread. I find it most reassuring. Ta

Jookeyman wrote:Schmeddy -

I really can't wrap my head around this one, maybe I'm a geezer or something of that nature.

Look man, it's the 21st Century, right? And we are living in a free society.
Male / Female / He-She, whatever.........gender doesn't have anything to do w/ desire & will.
If a person of any gender has the desire & the will to do anything, they can do it.
Sounds like the entitlement crowd wants a free ride, nothing more.
Nothing is easy.

I wouldn't dispute any of that. Problem for me is these geniuses can't acknowledge that there's a trend you can see in our society if you don't have blinders on. Women have a much stronger urge to start and raise families and their successful careers are often put on hold while they do this. That is an obstacle to success in the music biz, where the customer is so fickle and disloyal. Time spent away from writing and releasing new music and playing live shows equals lost fans and lost business. If you're not willing to keep up with your fan base in this business climate, others will. There are thousands of pros and amateurs fighting for every dollar spent on music and someone else will snatch it up if you're not there working for it.

Might be anecdotal, but I can't think of a single band I follow with even a female bass player that didn't implode or at least go on indefinite hiatus for half a decade or longer while dozens of bands with all males go on releasing new music and touring every year or two. You haven't noticed this trend?

The answer is easy.


(Most) women don't have the balls to get through what it will take. And aren't you glad?

Seriously, this a typical stereo-type but women are averse to confrontation, they are nurturers in their natural state. They need security whereas men need variety and enjoy competition. Testosterone is the answer.