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they were recorders and not keyboards Mike..

https://www.facebook.com/thedarksideoft ... 152649964/

ok, Mike, maybe they did use electric piano for live gigs.. maybe, but I am from Missouri, and you will have to show me..LOL

probably a Mellotron instead of Fender Rhodes though..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDo4CA13LbY is the actual BBC interview

I didn't know that they used actual recorders. Live, they used a Mellotron (saw the Song Remains the Same Tour - you can watch the movie and see that). Also, Page used his double neck Gibson, playing the 12 string for the acoustic part, then switching to the 6 string for the lead at the end - you can see it on the video above.

just giving you grief Mike..hang in there, your fans ready are still rooting for you as well as I..

Why? When did I say anything about the intro to StH?

I have a memory like an elephant..many months ago, maybe on the Jimmy Page Most Under-Rated Guitarist thread..

band meeting Wednesday at a pub.. but no PA or even a rehearsal spot.. I say, rent a storage unit, and buy a generator that makes small amount of noise if necessary..

and my memory like an elephant is the reason I a m a math whiz, I never forget the laws and theorems..LOL

I have a memory like an elephant..many months ago, maybe on the Jimmy Page Most Under-Rated Guitarist thread..

Better see a doctor about that memory!

Here are my only replies on that Jimmy Page thread:

When Page came to the edge of the stage (Providence Civic Center, Song Remains the Same tour, 1973), he was about 40 feet from where I sat/stood.
After seeing and hearing him play live, I didn't pickup a guitar for a week - never would get to that level. Of course I was also deaf in my right ear for a week!

Only if you pay for premiun SC service (don't)

These days Strats, but as can be seen it wasn't always that way.

So you're giving up playing music to play darts? Good idea at your age, a lot less stressful!

67-78 then disco came along ...

Dayne change the title! /\

from March 2016,

Mike you replied to me, when I commented the use of recorders in the intro section of Stairway To Heaven, that it was a mellotron
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#257190 by Dayne Nobody IV
Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:46 pm
thanks RG, fastest time ever I got a heart(like) over there.. maybe it's one of those Russian music websites eyeballing it?..
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#257193 by Planetguy
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Relax, take your shoes off, and sit a spell, listening to the smooth sounds of Dayne Nobody IV

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nice changes, dayne! and i think that might be the cleanest recording i've heard from you.
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#257194 by Dayne Nobody IV
Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:51 pm
thanks planetguy!.. really new to this recording thing.. but I think finally realizing how important the bass line is in a tune was key, writing a bass line either first or second in the recording process is what has helped me improve, (I think I've improved?).. but, there are two tunes that I wrote the last few days, that are on my external hard drive that will never be let out of their prison cell. .. jook would probably love them cause of their "weirdness" but they are bad boys and need to be punished..
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#257197 by Planetguy
Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:40 pm
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thanks planetguy!.. really new to this recording thing.. but I think finally realizing how important the bass line is in a tune was key, writing a bass line either first or second in the recording process is what has helped me improve)


well, that's all well and good but sometimes when i'm in a rut i'll start off w a different choice of instrument to lay down first or write with. it can be a fun challenge and force you out of tried and true moves and habits.
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#257198 by Dayne Nobody IV
Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:57 pm
god, now you got me thinkin' about how many recorders I have on hand?, I wonder how many I could dig up out of the inventory pile?.. I think one of the most beautiful parts of Stairway To Heaven are those recorders harmonizing on the intro..what you think? mand that has got to be some of the best sounding instrumentation on that tune... who did they hire to play those?..I know Plant ploayed some mean harmonica on the brown bomber? or maybe it was the first album? Page tried all sorts of distance miking and such, and man it was good sounding..
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#257200 by Planetguy
Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:23 pm
i guess i always assumed that was JPJ playing the recorder.

grace slick used to do some tasteful things on recorder. nothing "virtuoso" by any means, but it's a nice color she would occasionally add.

two examples here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdvMT32skw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xse2_EM2tRE
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#257201 by GuitarMikeB
Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:16 pm
The recorders/flutes on StH are played on a Mellotron. Listen carefully, you can hear the tape (that's how Mellotrons read the samples) warble.
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#257278 by Dayne Nobody IV
Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:17 am
ahhhh.. the principles of harmony.. two or three parts moving in the same direction is called similar motion two parts moving in different directions is calledcontrary motion and one part moving while the other stays at the same pitch is called oblique motion.some of the rules of traditional harmony you are likely to encounter are as follows: NO TWO PARTS are allowed to move in "consecutive" fifths or octaves ..and I won't even get stared on "hidden" fifths or octaves.. these occur when two parts move in similar motion (up or down together) to arrive at a fifth or octave.. it is permissible only when the uppervoice moves by no more than a single step..
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#257279 by Dayne Nobody IV
Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:29 am
you did not point out the time range on Royal Court in question? (ex. 45 sec. - 1 min. 5 sec. ) but I will bet the two chords you are speaking of is the one chord with the notes F# A B C# which to my understanding is either a Bm9 WITHOUT THE FLATTED third, or a polychord possibly could be written as F#m/B

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Ok, so I was wrong about the recorders - I had never heard that story before, thanks for finding it.

Interestingly, I was thinking last night of the first original song I ever performed in my 80s band, 'When the Bomb Falls' - I originally composed with the idea of soft guitar starting out with flutes coming in, but the band a the time didn't have a keyboard player (or a flute player), and we just cut the intro short (with flanged/phased electric guitar)
Now I can look back at that song and realize I was paraphrasing StH's soud.

Here's the song (with keyboard flutes):
https://youtu.be/EgOZlyXVMPY