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You got to love the net. Someone in England, Africa, New Zealand, Spain, Germany or whereever may be interested in laying down some groovy lead tracks on a master tracks being assembled here in Atlanta, GA. Well, go to my homepage and check out a few quick experimental (raw) mixes and lets start collaborating. I’m not married to these particular raw mixes or any style, just want to have some fun with assembling some really cool tunes with other creative musicians.

If you’re interested, we’ll need to discuss minimal sound font quality and format. I work in both Digi002 and Reason. This can grow to many levels. Any takers out there?

Dave......

I'm really glad you are jumping on the growing internet-collab thing. Also that you are doing something besides rock and roll. Would you have anything against swapping mp3 files with the BPMs in the file name (just for working purposes, WAVs for the final)?

Salutations Irminsul,

You remix blindside or program the song? I'm digging the concept of net collaboration espically if someone's in a experimental mode. Lets talk more.

If it helps, I'm in a industrial/Trance phase = touch of NIN, a drop of Oingo Bongo, a splash of Mute Math, a pinch of old school Louis Armstrong, Akira Yamaoka and any possible sound that can be physically sampled with my trusty Korg MR-1. Every single note is damaged through many processing algorithms.

Still interested?

One the best collab sites is http://www.musicianscollaboration.com. Join up there are a lot of great people there.

I would suggest against using MP3s as bed tracks. Per this thread

http://www.musicianscollaboration.com/f ... ?topic=9.0

* WMA: We have found that mp3 adds a little dead air to the beginning of a file. Wma does not. So this is the preferred file format for "working" files. Of course if you use Mac...we will have to play with the mp3 file to line it up.
* APE:This is monkey audio's lossless file format. This is a good compression format that will keep your tracks sounding great. We mix to wav...then compress to ape and post. Works great for your finished tracks.

Actually I think it's been proven that WMAs also do some small amount of padding.

Monkeys Audio is available for the PC and Coccoa Monkey and MAX are available for the Mac. I actually use wavpack which is just as good as Monkeys Audio and is open source and cross platform between linux, windoze and mac.

urban-K9,
All the tunes in my profile are collabs. And there are more here

Couldn't agree with you more BassPlay3r. I'd slap a picture of Victor W. between those two monitors in your studio. Nice groove tunes and thanks for the site links!

I've finished up three CD's with www.brentweber.com Childrens hiphop music. My favorite song was "Crazy Dance" We have a fourth CD being mastered in Nashville, TN. and will be released end of September 07.

"Bottoms Up"

Thanks for the props. Mainly it was the other players who made the tunes. I was just along for the ride.

Good luck on the mastering of the new CD. MC was great because I was able to get people who master for a living to do my tracks and mixes. That mastering crap is a black art.

urban-K9 wrote:Salutations Irminsul,

You remix blindside or program the song? I'm digging the concept of net collaboration espically if someone's in a experimental mode. Lets talk more.

If it helps, I'm in a industrial/Trance phase = touch of NIN, a drop of Oingo Bongo, a splash of Mute Math, a pinch of old school Louis Armstrong, Akira Yamaoka and any possible sound that can be physically sampled with my trusty Korg MR-1. Every single note is damaged through many processing algorithms.

Still interested?

Yes, always interested in new ventures that look good.

Blindside Barium is not a remix (I dont do those) it's my own piece.

My interests these days are really in two areas that seem like they wouldnt be harmonious - neoclassic composition (piano, string quartet and varied ensembles) and electronic/trance. I even have a couple of female vocalists interested in helping out. Perhaps we could just swap some mp3 clips to see if they engender an inspiration or five?

I like your influences, by the way. I was involved in a three piece Industrial act for several years, and our influences were NIN, Pig, Frontline Assembly, Front 242 and many others.

there may be a world famous band whose members never meet face-to-face, who only produce CD's over the internet. That would be way cool. Imagine not having to deal with anybody's annoying habits, smoking, foul body odor, poor grooming, out-of-style haircuts, tattered clothing, drunken behavior, etc. Virtually (no pun intended) nothing to get you pissed off about. Just pure musical collaboration. No ignorant bar owners to punch out when not getting paid. No heavy PA equipment to haul. A perfect world of pure musical collaboration. I definitely need to get caught up on my computer skills. I need to quit my band and spend all my efforts here in cyberspace. A perfect world of pure musical collaboration. All the hassles I've had over 27 years of performing would be OVER with. It's time to go fishing, or better yet, invent a computerized fishing CD. I wouldn't have to handle smellly worms or fish. I wouldn't get a sunburn or catch a cold. I wouldn't have to pick up anybody's trash. I wouldn't lose any lures or accidentally hook myself. A perfect world of fishing heaven. Without ever leaving home. Did anybody ever read Kafka's "The Beetle"? Maybe that's what we're all going to turn into someday. Later...

Having done the Collab thing for a while now I much prefer face to face. Collabs are great if the material is there but theres nothing like a drummer and bass player syncing on the fly in realtime. Collabs tend to take a while because everything is done separately. Also, things that work face to face are more difficult to do on line. After a drummer has done his track it's kinda of hard to ask him tweak things like being a little early/late on the snare or kick. With Face to Face those things happen naturally. The closest thing to F2F would be that ejamming.com thing because everyone is synced. Definitely going to try that. So I wouldn't think of the online collab thing as a replacement to live playing, its more of something to do between gigs. It also lets you branch out and try different things without having to get a whole band together. A great example of one of the first all virtual bands is the Funk Dawgs. I had the pleasure of collabing with the drummer and he was so on he really mad it easy.

How compatible are you with Cakewals SONAR?

PS: It seems to me MP3 slightly degrades the quality of the tracks. Over several exchanges, it could add up, couldn't it?

Who me? I have Sonar 6.3PE

Typically you only use one file per track hopefully WMA or some lossless compression format. MP3s are doable but it really is a pain for the guy who has to line up all the parts.

DaveGTD wrote:How compatible are you with Cakewals SONAR?

PS: It seems to me MP3 slightly degrades the quality of the tracks. Over several exchanges, it could add up, couldn't it?

You only use mp3's as scratch reference. In final mixyou use high quality WAVs.