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Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:02 pm
by DainNobody
well folks, I had a backlog of tunes in my head, and have laid down some rough drafts on the recorder, uploaded them to yourlisten.com and I am pretty much now out of fresh ideas, some of these musical ideas were 3 to 4 years old, some were almost spontaneous, like Blues Unlimited, and now I have them for everybody to enjoy if you can stomach them, I know I will never make a penny off of them, but they will live on after I am gone, and hopefully one out of the dozen or so will give you a small amount of happiness, or perhaps spur you on if you find yourself losing hope in this cruel, and corrupt world.. most of you are probably over-joyed I am out of musical ideas for now, give it a rest and reflect on it.. LOL :D
http://yourlisten.com/PieTime/nuevo-laredo

Re: Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:12 pm
by Planetguy
"pop jazz"? hmmmm, not sure about that label...but then, that's labels for you. i'd say, in my mind anything of the "pop jazz" genre (what i refer to as "hot tub" jazz) usually has one or more butt simple and easily identified, recognizable hooks. rinse. repeat. rinse, repeat. i didn't hear that here.

interesting changes there and it sounds like your pretty much winging it on the single line gtr stuff.

good job on recording it....i think this is your cleanest recording i've heard so far. 8)

Re: Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:46 pm
by DainNobody
thanks planetguy for the critique, yeah, you are right about the wingin' it part, but I took advice from some commentary speaking about how Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton when doing a lead solo would do approx. "4 takes" improvised on the spot and take the best one out of the four, my trouble is I have not figured out how to know when I have the "best one" and sometimes discard "the best one" not knowing it had that special touch I can no longer re-capture.. it sucks , trying to keep getting a "better one" has drawbacks and then settle on one not as good as one that was thrown away.. :lol:

Re: Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:22 pm
by DainNobody
jookeyman wrote:Again, I like your harmonic approach above all.
I hear 'rubs' between guitar lines. I really like those the best if they are resolved quickly (which they do).

Sure you're not kin to Bill Harkleroad? :)

is my guitar out of tune again? or is my guitar playing on par with Zoot? that Trout Mask Replica album guitar work does sound like me a lot.. voted 54th best album out of 500 albums at rolling stone I think..

Re: Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:11 pm
by DainNobody
Source: wikipedia

Beefheart would abuse his band members enough to make them cry :)

The group rehearsed Van Vliet's difficult compositions for eight months, living communally in a small rented house in the Woodland Hills suburb of Los Angeles. Van Vliet implemented his vision by asserting complete artistic and emotional domination of his musicians. At various times one or another of the group members was put "in the barrel", with Van Vliet berating him continually, sometimes for days, until the musician collapsed in tears or in total submission to Van Vliet.[3] According to John French and Bill Harkleroad these sessions often included physical violence. French described the situation as "cultlike"[4] and a visiting friend said "the environment in that house was positively Manson-esque."[5] Their material circumstances also were dire. With no income other than welfare and contributions from relatives, the group survived on a bare subsistence diet. French recounted living on no more than a small cup of soybeans a day for a month[6] and at one point band members were arrested for shoplifting food (with Zappa bailing them out).[7] A visitor described their appearance as "cadaverous" and said that "they all looked in poor health". Band members were restricted from leaving the house and practiced for 14 or more hours a day. Vliet once told drummer John French he had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and thus he would see nonexistent conspiracies that explained this behavior.

The album's unconventional nature often alienates new listeners. Cartoonist and writer Matt Groening tells of listening to Trout Mask Replica at the age of 15: "I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever heard. I said to myself, they're not even trying! It was just a sloppy cacophony. Then I listened to it a couple more times, because I couldn't believe Frank Zappa could do this to me – and because a double album cost a lot of money. About the third time, I realised they were doing it on purpose; they meant it to sound exactly this way. About the sixth or seventh time, it clicked in, and I thought it was the greatest album I'd ever heard".

Re: Nuevo Laredo a Latin pop-jazz like thing

PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:46 pm
by DainNobody
nope, never read the book, but I will be googling it later, and hopefully there is a free online book to read later today..thanks..