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In my life time I've spent at least $80,000.00 on music and I'm still spending. Just this weekend I went to the casino and picked up the bands cd for $10.00. I made them sign it.

Mike, you're obviously in the pocket of the Big Music Cartels.

Just kidding. That's a good graphic.

On the other hand....

Radiohead

U2

Foo Fighters

Have all given away albums or EP's of professionally produced music (no comment on the quality of the content ) for $0.00!

Scmed - those bands didn't give away their music for nothing until they were already rich! It's like Zuckerberg giving away 99% of his Facebook stock. He's still a billionaire!

No doubt, musicians buy more music (CDs, downloads, vinyl) than non-musicians. I was at some shows last Thursday and Friday and while waiting to get the digital USB stick of the show Thursday night watched a guy trying to decide which of the band's albums he was going to get from the merch table. They were offering their first 4 albums @ $5 each - fer chrissakes, get them all, buddy!

Mike, I know you are probably going to hate me forever after mentioning this, but did you not mention filming or trying to record or film/photograph a recent concert you attended until the camera nazi police showed up or were in full force? .. they must have thought it inappropriate to film for "free"..????? sorry Mike, don't hate me

Dayne Nobody IV wrote:Mike, I know you are probably going to hate me forever after mentioning this, but did you not mention filming or trying to record or film/photograph a recent concert you attended until the camera nazi police showed up or were in full force? .. they must have thought it inappropriate to film for "free"..????? sorry Mike, don't hate me

Dayne - sometimes its the venue, sometimes its the artist, dictating the camera policy. Sometimes youtube videos of concerts get shut down (and deleted) because of the 'protected' music. This is usually done by the record label - Warner Brothers is notorious for it.
However, posting a video of a live show is not the same as offering a FREE DOWNLOAD of a studio-produced song, which jookeyman was talking about that site that steal off of Souncloud. And I certainly know its not hard to figure out how to record a playback of a song from any online source.
The REAL point of the graphic in the original post is people who don't BUY any music - they stream from Spotify, Pandora, or play XM/Sirius in their cars and don't buy (direct) any music. The $10 a month they pay for satellite radio seems like a bargain to them rather than buying 1 CD, or 10 downloads - but the bands/players are getting fractions of a cent for each play rather than the $0.90/download payoff.

I see your point, since you had bought a high priced concert ticket, you were more than less entitled to use your camera, recorder.. I understand and please forgive me..

You gotta love those old mac amps

Dayne Nobody IV wrote:I see your point, since you had bought a high priced concert ticket, you were more than less entitled to use your camera, recorder.. I understand and please forgive me..

No, its a difference between people giving away unauthorized digital copies of a track that's being sold elsewhere, and someone videoing a live show. A video of a live show (if the show is any good) will encourage a youtube viewer to go see the live show (and hopefully bring a friend or two), encourage the person to buy the studio album. Lots of bands encourage this. Some don't (or their record companies don't).
The Dead understood this - allowing people to (audio) record their shows, then give away the recordings gets more people to the shows, more people buying every officially released album - notice the recent tour with only 3-4 of the original members selling out every arena venue they play, compare to Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull's recent (no videos) show playing at a 4000 seat theater and having plenty of empty seats.

I'm finding as I assemble marketing assets to promote my writing that it is a world of many shades of gray - book covers are often assembled by pieces of existing graphics by people who swear there is no copyright problem.

I don't know. It's sort of anarchy. The music biz seems very similar. And here I am, nearly ready to jump back into that cesspool.

Did I mention that i hate marketing? I also hate stealing. But out in the digital wonderland those terms seem to blur sometimes.

Talbot