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#239834 by MonsterOnSunday
Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:56 pm
We're an atheist rock band in San Diego called Monster On Sunday. We're looking to hire a drummer and a bass player for an upcoming tour. This site seems a bit 'dead', any advice for other good places to find studio grade musicians? And of course if you're interested in an audition, please contact us!
#239835 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:46 pm
If you already have a tour lined up, it shouldn't be a problem. I'd suggest spending a whole day or more at the local music stores checking out people who come in to try the gear, reading the want ads on the bulletin boards, asking the employees who is available, etc....

If you have paying gigs lined up, it's really easy. If you don't then it will take a little while....


So you're a religious band, eh?


Welcome to the BM jungle.


:)
#239836 by GuitarMikeB
Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:43 pm
These forums are not much good for finding band members, try the search function in the profiles.
#239839 by Planetguy
Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:02 pm
yep...good advice from yod there.

an atheist band spreading the NONgospel...interesting concept. and why not? there are plenty of bands out there of a religious bent that are trying to get THEIR message across.

some of them (not all) are no doubt judgmental of those who don't subscribe to their dogma....and that judging of others who hold different beliefs has always bugged me and turned me off to "organized religion". it's one of many reasons i'm an atheist.

so, i find it kind of interesting to see a group of atheists seemingly going down that same route..... "The monster on sunday as you waste your lives away" (sorry if i didn't quote that exactly right).

...wow, pretty judgmental stuff. it sorta smacks a little of do like I do because I know the ONE right way

i don't know....doesn't seem much different than a christian band telling me "i'm going to hell if i don't accept jesus".

i bet that sounds ....well....pretty JUDGMENTAL of me. :)

BTW i'm an atheist bassplayer!

hey, good luck in the personel hunt and welcome to bandmix. 8)
#239840 by MikeTalbot
Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:43 pm
"There ain't nothing going down at all - not at all!" oh wait...

Why talk about nothing? 8)

Talbot
#239850 by schmedidiah
Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:10 am
I believe I'll have what my new buddy Saladin is smoking. :mrgreen:

Just check out the South Park trilogy, where Cartman goes to the future and finds 3 different groups of atheists battling for control of the planet. They say "Darwin" in place of "God". Absolutely brilliant! :twisted:
#239854 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:48 am
Planetguy wrote:yep...good advice from yod there.

an atheist band spreading the NONgospel...interesting concept. and why not?)



oh, oh...Let me, the former atheist, answer that one!!!

I wasn't an angry atheist. I figured that religion was a psychological crutch that some people needed to get through the day.

I wasn't a hypocritical atheist either though....my band didn't play AC/DC because they are singing religious music to the devil and, of course, he doesn't exist either if there is no God to have created him.

Now I can clearly see how hypocritical atheism truly is. Their "psychological crutch" is blaming any kind of faith for the problems of the world when the truth is exactly opposite. Secular humanism has produced most of the problems of this world, once you remove the "holy" texts which have no basis in anything historically proven. But the commentaries of men can be found in all religions....and in the secular "bible" of news media, science, and literature.

As a person of faith my eyes have been opened to the difference between faith (strong trust) and religion (manipulation through interpretation of texts).

Having faith has made me a much better person. Though I still exhibit all the symptoms of self-ambition and lusts of the flesh, I now at least have a standard that convicts me of it's harm to other people. Before, I didn't care. "Do what thou will, that is the whole of the law" is the First Commandment of the Satanic Bible and the foundation of atheism.

I find that people (religious or not) will find a way to justify just about anything they want to do. Religion does it through a twisting of the truth, and the non-religious do it through denial of the same truth.

Faithful people do it also, but they do it against their own conviction and there is the chance that they will turn from their sin and repent, if they are held accountable by other people of faith around them.

Now I see what I could not allow myself to see before. There are only two kind of people. Those who are honest with themselves (religious or non) and those who have convinced themselves of their own self-righteousness (religious or non)

I know many non-religious people who are dependable and honest. As a musician, they make up most of my best friends, actually. But I also no longer lump all people of faith as "superstitious" or "judgmental". That is no different that being prejudiced against black people or jews.

There is no "reason" behind it but bigotry. One may have caught on the receiving end of a judgmental hyper-religious pinhead...but that doesn't give you the right to be just like them in the opposite way.

And now I see how intellectually dishonest it is to blame all wars on religion, when atheists of the last century EACH killed more people than all religious wars combined. And by the way, except for the Inquisition, all religious wars have been started by muslims whose "holy" books were plagurized garbling of jewish texts, written by a pedophile on heavy narcotic drugs.

Yes, many have used religion as a tool to manipulate the religious masses...but the Word they claim as authoritative had to be intentionally mis-interpreted to do it.

But lest anyone think that I am anti-atheist, I want to state my position is that I am pro-people. My God tells me that all are made in His image and any offense against another person is an offense to my God, which would make me disobedient to my own supposed faith.

But genuinely, I would like REASON with the anti-religious but find that most are unreasonable, which makes them disobedient to their supposed faith.

With all sincerity, I welcome an honest person who disagrees with me. It is so much more interesting to talk with people who don't agree with everything I say or think.

and I say "shalom" to all


:)
#239867 by Planetguy
Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:23 pm
yod wrote:
Now I can clearly see how hypocritical atheism truly is. Their "psychological crutch" is blaming any kind of faith for the problems of the world when the truth is exactly opposite.


ted, that seems to suggest you believe that all atheists feel that way. i've never felt that way. i'd venture to say there are as many varying views among atheists as there are among believers. just like you can't (or shouldn't) put all persons of faith in the same bag....likewise for atheists.

Secular humanism has produced most of the problems of this world, once you remove the "holy" texts which have no basis in anything historically proven. But the commentaries of men can be found in all religions....and in the secular "bible" of news media, science, and literature.


well, i would agree that MAN.... both religious AND humanist are responsible for most if not all of our problems. i don't see the need to keep a running tally card. if we did...i'd say it's neck and neck.

As a person of faith my eyes have been opened to the difference between faith (strong trust) and religion (manipulation through interpretation of texts).

Having faith has made me a much better person.


ted....if you needed faith for you to arrive at being a better person... i'd say "well done" for finding something to move you further along. but to me it seems ludicrous to believe that faith is a requirement for everyone to "be all you can be".


Though I still exhibit all the symptoms of self-ambition and lusts of the flesh, I now at least have a standard that convicts me of it's harm to other people. Before, I didn't care.


i get it.... but before when you "didn't care" and found yourself lacking of standards...you're attributing that being an atheist. had i known you then i might have simply attributed it to you being an a$$hole....not because you were an athiest! (i know you understand how i mean that and trust you won't take offense).

and this goes to what i'm trying to say.....perhaps YOU needed to reconnect w your faith to avoid.....for lack of a better way to say it.....being an asshole. :) but i do believe there are many (atheists) who can make good decisions (and not be "assholes") w/o faith.



With all sincerity, I welcome an honest person who disagrees with me. It is so much more interesting to talk with people who don't agree with everything I say or think.

and I say "shalom" to all

:)


ted, i would not have replied and responded if i didn't already know that about you. shalom!
#239873 by Planetguy
Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:25 pm
TheFarleys wrote:We Agnostics regard atheists the same way we regard the religious; as know-it-alls who must force their world-view on anyone who will listen just to validate their evidence-lacking beliefs. There is but one truth: that the truth is unknowable.


Jimmy...so, when DID you start speaking for all agnostics????

damn, to me there's none more close minded than those who make across the board assumptions about a whole group of people (atheists/religious). nothing lazy 'bout that! worse still is when they think they speak for the group they "represent".

s'ok, jimmy.... i still loves ya man. :)
#239876 by Planetguy
Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:32 pm
like i said......broad, and sweeping generalizations that dismissively lump people together....in my book, that's just plain lazy.

whether it's about all blacks..... all irish....all women....all gays....all southerners.....all catholics....or all atheists.

and tempering it w the word "tend" ......meh.

"BTW, I certainly don't come here looking for "love".

thanks for clarifying that. duly noted. fear not.....i'll withhold all declarations of love in the future.

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