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Here is an enlightening and revealing conversation with one of the guys who has been there, done that. He walks you down the digital path music has taken over the last 30 years and has a pretty good idea what it looks like today. He is also available to mix "almost anything" for you if you see value in involving some experienced hands and ears in your project. A good read.

http://www.examiner.com/article/in-the- ... ts_article

I may... throw some money in to do that.

Throwing money at a good engineer/studio doesn't get you into 'big hit'-ville by itself.

GuitarMikeB wrote:Throwing money at a good engineer/studio doesn't get you into 'big hit'-ville by itself.

Of course. You need to start with a great song and an inspiring performance but an engineer who knows the ropes might mean the difference between a CD that sells or becomes part of a film soundtrack, vs one that collects dust in your basement. A fairly small investment with the potential for big returns. Like a winning coach or top performing race team, the guys who have already been down the path to success know the way.

I'm not in it for a hit.

Yeah I know . . . I'm strange.

http://youtu.be/Sq9oR9x171w

sanshouheil wrote:I'm not in it for a hit.

Unless you define a "hit" as maximum potential outreach. I suspect your music and Yod's have similar goals and both probably benefit from experienced hands and ears. Consider who is engineering the music of Stryper, Chris Tomlin, Hillsong, Bethel, Shane & Shane, Phil Wickham, MercyMe.

Their approach is not for everyone but it is a proven path that works to achieve maximum exposure to their music. If maximum exposure is important to you, perhaps this approach has value. As always it is simply a personal choice whether you decide to involve others in your project or go it alone.

Thejohnny7band wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:I'm not in it for a hit.

Unless you define a "hit" as maximum potential outreach. I suspect your music and Yod's have similar goals and both probably benefit from experienced hands and ears. Consider who is engineering the music of Stryper, Chris Tomlin, Hillsong, Bethel, Shane & Shane, Phil Wickham, MercyMe.

Their approach is not for everyone but it is a proven path that works to achieve maximum exposure to their music. If maximum exposure is important to you, perhaps this approach has value. As always it is simply a personal choice whether you decide to involve others in your project or go it alone.

Absolutely . . . more concerned with mortgage payment right now..
Hell, may not even have a band tomorrow.
If the time comes . . . it will come.
It's in God's hands.
Always has been.

George

The only thing worse than playing in a band is not playing in a band.

Talbot

MikeTalbot wrote:George

The only thing worse than playing in a band is not playing in a band.

Talbot

I disagree with the way that is worded, so let me give it a shot....

The only thing worse than playing in a band is not playing


Having a band is optional and temporary.




But if one chooses to have a career as a recording artist, the quality of those recordings is paramount to one's success, so having the best possible engineers, producers, mastering, etc is very important. A first rate song and performance can be obscured by a second rate recording of it.

I learned long ago that someone who spends their life learning the intricate details of sound production is worth whatever they ask for. The musician who records as a hobby, or to make home demos doesn't compare favorably in the real world with that person. It would be like a high school kid playing one-on-one against LeBron James. They might make a good showing but there is no way they are going to really compete at the same level.





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Amen to what Yod said.

If you expect to compete at the highest level you need to put forth the effort to have the best product you can make.

jw123 wrote:Amen to what Yod said.

If you expect to compete at the highest level you need to put forth the effort to have the best product you can make.

That's true JW.

Also true . . . if I had $100,000,000 I could be twerkin on stage with Miley right now.

yod wrote:

MikeTalbot wrote:George

The only thing worse than playing in a band is not playing in a band.

Talbot

I disagree with the way that is worded, so let me give it a shot....

The only thing worse than playing in a band is not playing


Having a band is optional and temporary.




But if one chooses to have a career as a recording artist, the quality of those recordings is paramount to one's success, so having the best possible engineers, producers, mastering, etc is very important. A first rate song and performance can be obscured by a second rate recording of it.

I learned long ago that someone who spends their life learning the intricate details of sound production is worth whatever they ask for. The musician who records as a hobby, or to make home demos doesn't compare favorably in the real world with that person. It would be like a high school kid playing one-on-one against LeBron James. They might make a good showing but there is no way they are going to really compete at the same level.





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you ought to tell that to whomever recorded the album Johnny Winter And Live, a very rough sound, but can't get enough of Rick Derringer and Johnny Winter swapping licks.... but I'll take it hands down over anything as brilliant as what the Pet Shop Boys recorded

He has quite a resume... if you're into R&B and Rap sounds.
Me personally I'd look for someone in Memphis or Nashville for the ears if I had the goods. But those are the sounds I like.

Dayne Nobody IV wrote: you ought to tell that to whomever recorded the album Johnny Winter And Live, a very rough sound, but can't get enough of Rick Derringer and Johnny Winter swapping licks.... but I'll take it hands down over anything as brilliant as what the Pet Shop Boys recorded

It was a different era, but that recording was exactly what it was supposed to be; capturing the raw energy of a JW show.


Use a lesser engineer/producer and it sucks....




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