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This looks interesting but wonder if anyone here has checked into it?

yod wrote:http://www.evertune.com

This looks interesting but wonder if anyone here has checked into it?

a better mousetrap? maybe, but cynic i am.... i'm skeptical. i watched the first video (interesting frets on that gtr) and i was a little put off having noticed two edits there. (that i noticed)

it'd certainly be pretty damn cool if it worked! i'd love to have something like that that actually worked for my mandos. even w good mandos, you spend around 20% of time playing 'em and the other 80% tuning and retuning the fuggers!

Can't watch the videos at work, sounds interesting, but a PITA to set up each time you change strings. I imagine you have to go thorugh the procedure if you snap a string at a gig - that's a time killer!

One thing I don't think it really addresses is intonation tuning. No matter the quality of your guitar, everyone knows that guitar tuning and fret spacing is a compromise. Tune it to open notes and your E major sounds a little off, tune it so that an open G sounds good and a D major is a little off. Not sure how these 'auto tune' devices (mechanical or robotic) handle this.

GuitarMikeB wrote:Can't watch the videos at work, sounds interesting, but a PITA to set up each time you change strings. I imagine you have to go thorugh the procedure if you snap a string at a gig - that's a time killer!

One thing I don't think it really addresses is intonation tuning. No matter the quality of your guitar, everyone knows that guitar tuning and fret spacing is a compromise. Tune it to open notes and your E major sounds a little off, tune it so that an open G sounds good and a D major is a little off. Not sure how these 'auto tune' devices (mechanical or robotic) handle this.

when ya getta chance to check the vids....scope out those frets in the 1st video. looks like an effort to address intonation issues.

You don't carry a back up axe ?

Interesting. First demo video on the front page the guy has a guitar with split frets - that addresses my intonation problem question! Otherwise, you're going to be subject to how you set it up AND the guitar's basic intonation compromise. Also, if you break a string, you are definitely screwed - no fast 'between song' change out.

You bring up an interesting point....

If it is truly holding each string in place perfectly, there should never be a broken sting, should there?

Not if tuning were the only reason strings break. Unfortunately they break for various reasons, including being faulty from the factory.

I have posted stuff about this many times.

First new strings, properly stretched, will not go out of tune in the first 5 to ten hours of heavy playing. If the guitar is properly set up and the intonation is good... which is a whole 'nother topic... THE GUITAR SHOULD STAY VERY CLOSE TO TUNE.

After 10 hours of playing the strings themselves pick up all sorts of "FRETWARE"
Look at all the lines at the bottom of the strings, the next time you change them. This all changes intonation. No one plays a guitar the same way... but all those lines throw the INTONATION OFF. If you add finger grunge to the mix... That dead skin stuck to the strings... we all try to wipe off.

And we expect a miracle bridge to keep this mishmosh of abuse to solve a problem that is GUITAR. Ain't gonna happen.

I haven't broken a string in 40 years. Not that I'm a whimpy player...
When you have strings that have 20 and 30 and 40 hours of playing or more... That damn old "FRETWARE" is going to become your best friend as far as "unexpected" string breakage.

Just a thought.

I play hard, I don't generally break strings ( I do change them regularly )

I also own quality instruments, though my EPIPHONE standby is prone to break strings.

My Gibsons do not.

sanshouheil wrote:I play hard, I don't generally break strings ( I do change them regularly )

I also own quality instruments, though my EPIPHONE standby is prone to break strings.

My Gibsons do not.

Strings just don't break Sans. There has to be a reason. Sharp edges on the bridge. Not being careful enough when replacing them and putting pressure on the new piece of wire. There has to be a reason.

The next time you break a string on your Epiphone you should check it out and look for the real reason. Maybe you play it more than you think. Do you have one or more frets that are really sharp or rough? You have to see if the string is breaking in the same place every time.

Fresh strings just shouldn't break.

Glen

"... THE GUITAR SHOULD STAY VERY CLOSE TO TUNE"

I disagree, to a degree. Not all guitars are the same . I own three guitars at this time and gosh knows how many over the years.

The Tele I own now with it's unsophisticated bridge stays in tune the best of them all for some reason. A Les Paul Jr I had to sell was the absolute worst - sounded like a million dollars but had a cheesy bridge and would not stay in tune.

There are a lot of variables that can influence staying in tune with the bridge of course, being a big one.

Its annoying as hell but you can bugger up some guitars by switching string gauge - it can sometimes require a setup modification. The use of tremolo and the desire to experiment with different tunings can impact it as well.

For the most part though, I think you nailed it.

Talbot

GLENNY J wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:I play hard, I don't generally break strings ( I do change them regularly )

I also own quality instruments, though my EPIPHONE standby is prone to break strings.

My Gibsons do not.

Strings just don't break Sans. There has to be a reason. Sharp edges on the bridge. Not being careful enough when replacing them and putting pressure on the new piece of wire. There has to be a reason.

The next time you break a string on your Epiphone you should check it out and look for the real reason. Maybe you play it more than you think. Do you have one or more frets that are really sharp or rough? You have to see if the string is breaking in the same place every time.

Fresh strings just shouldn't break.

It's the bridge . . . I've just not taken the time to address it.
Just as soon use my Gibsons.

Mike I was just commenting on Sans having a guitar that seemed to break more strings than normal. Something is wrong there.

What most people have to understand about guitar is that is an extremely tempered fretted instrument. IT IS IMPERFECT.

The variables for a well tuned guitar that is very playable are NUMEROUS.

You can have a guitar that is well set up to play open chording or a guitar that is set up to play screaming upper octave leads.

The variables can include temp changes, humidity changes, how well the neck truss bar construction is, fret placement, string height decided by the bridge and head nut, string tension,... This list goes on and on. This is the song that never ends.

After learning a few chords, every one that wants to play guitar should sit down and learn the basics of how a guitar needs to be set up. This is going way off the original topic... There is no one bridge that can overcome the variables unless it is a computer that can compensate for the same things a string bending blues player can.

One other huge variable... The human ear. Sometimes a slightly # or flat guitar lead can be awesome.

Just my opinion. mark... FU.

"I was just commenting on Sans having a guitar that seemed to break more strings than normal. Something is wrong there.

Got it. And agree.

I failed the hearing test in BOTH ears last week so I'm thanking God for e-tuners. I can still when it's out of wack though.

Talbot