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Many people ask us "Why don't you get a singer?" and we always reply that we are trying to force people to experience and enjoy music in a different way. Without words helping the listener to identify with the music, you force your own imagination to help in deciphering it's meaning. This process can be very enjoyable to the listener and many times, much more interesting (this has been the case at all of our shows). There is a very un-artificial movement of bands playing instrumental rock music, and whether we knew it or not we have become part of this movement. Just by having similar expressive intentions. We are proud of this. Here are some listening suggestions: (Russian Circles / Youngblood). (Albino Beach / Myopia -live). (Maserati / Monoliths -live). (Red Sparrows / Annihilate the sparrow). and for those who don't believe there could be a future in this... (The Ventures / Wipeout -live) Onehundred million units sold. - Mirror by the Sun

The Ventures was a different time, 60 years on things are much different now. People are condictioned to listen to The Voice in contemporary music. Sure, there are plenty of music fans who like instrumental music (and continue to fill up symphony halls on a regular basis), but its not a majority of people by any stretch of the imaginination.

Still disbelieving.. lol

60 years past should be no problem
... according to the scientists, it would seem quite feasible, inevitable actually, to regurgitate the same 'ol anew by the simple application of this formula:
"An old tune could perfectly sound novel and fashionable,
provided that it consisted of common harmonic progressions,
changed the instrumentation,
and increased the average loudness."



Usually an instrumental band tends to raise the bar a bit for the musicians, their musicality has to be so good as to be a "voice".
It is no coincidence that instrumental groups are very common, almost the norm, in jazz. Good jazz musicians can sing on their instruments with great versatility and virtuosity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kAfsDCXI8


Joan Serra of the Spanish National Research Council, who led the study published in the Scientific Reports journal, said: "We found evidence of a progressive homogenization of the musical discourse.

The diversity of transitions between note combinations roughly speaking chords plus melodies has consistently diminished in the past 50 years

The "timbre" of songs the number of different tones they include, for example from different instruments has also become narrower, he added.

The study was the first to conduct a large-scale measurement of "intrinsic loudness", or the volume a song is recorded at, which determines how loud it will sound compared with other songs at a particular setting on an amplifier.

It appeared to support long-standing claims that the music industry is engaged in a "loudness war" in which volumes are gradually being increased.

Although older songs may be more varied and rich, the researchers advised that they could be made to sound more "fashionable and groundbreaking" if they were re-recorded and made blander and louder.

They wrote: "An old tune could perfectly sound novel and fashionable, provided that it consisted of common harmonic progressions, changed the instrumentation, and increased the average loudness."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... -same.html

Vinny, if you play like you talk/write, I bet you'd be interesting to listen to..

Maybe not my jug of moonshine, but I bet I could hang with it.

(After all drunk is drunk) lol

Starfish Scott wrote:Vinny, if you play like you talk/write, I bet you'd be interesting to listen to..

Maybe not my jug of moonshine, but I bet I could hang with it.

(After all drunk is drunk) lol

Thank you Scott!
(Did you ever drink tequila laced with hallucinogens?)

However I will assure you that I do not play so well as those guys in the link I posted.

I am somewhat of a fan of instrumentals and we cover several classics including Green Onions, Wipe Out, Lowrider, Tequila, Sleepwalk, Pipeline and others. We are not strictly an instrumental band and I don't really believe in "forcing" anyone to listen to anything in particular.

Instrumentals from the Surf Music era is just one facet of what we do.

I don't believe in "forcing" anyone to listen to anything either...hahaha! What I meant was that the human brain thinks in words and images, so for example if I say "elephant" you will automatically picture an elephant in your mind. It most likely will not be the same elephant from the next person but nonetheless an elephant. If I create a series of sounds one person will picture themselves in the middle of the Saharan desert on a camel and the next person atop of a sky scrapper about to jump on a hang glider (both scenarios are true reactions from two different people to the same piece of music). So what I mean is without lyrics to guide your consciousness you have no option but to let your imagination and feelings roam free. We find this to be a very cool thing and that is what I was getting at.

GuitarMikeB wrote:The Ventures was a different time, 60 years on things are much different now. People are condictioned to listen to The Voice in contemporary music. Sure, there are plenty of music fans who like instrumental music (and continue to fill up symphony halls on a regular basis), but its not a majority of people by any stretch of the imaginination.

I don't know about that...have you ever been to a rave? Instrumental music (digital instruments, but still, instrumental). This type of music has been gaining popularity globally for quite some time, to the point where huge venues get sold out, and people will pay big bucks to go hear an artist. This might be out of the realm of what you considered because many people don't see these artists as musicians, but I would disagree with them.

I assume you mean someone putting 'sounds' together like Skrllx (however he spells it)? People dancing their asses off is a lot different than people listening/paying attention to music.

You mean like people use to stand and listen to Nirvana...hahaha! How people react to music depends on the genre...I play flamenco, and when you listen to flamenco you clap the rhythm, with Cuban music they dance, with heavy metal you bang your head. The thing is you would not have a reaction if you weren't listening and feeling the music.

You brought up 'raves'. The next time you are hosting a flamenco rave, let us know.

As a side note, you might want to start a profile here at Bandmix to show people your abilities and the style(s) of music you are talking about. People who don't post any music in some form here tend to get dismissed as wannabes or trolls.

Well I just joined this site, because I also play rock, and I'm not that computer literate, so I'm still setting up my account. I'll be happy to share some of my music, although I don't think about it as showing off my skills hahaha!

It's cool if you disagree with me, it's just my opinion. I wish you lots of success in your music.

Here are a couple of vids...I'll check your stuff out too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9W5v-Dn ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8FOvHy ... ata_player

There's something good right there.. "Flamenco Rave".

Sounds like a band name though..

That's exactly what I thought!