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This should sstir up some *conversation*

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:07 am
by GuitarMikeB

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:21 am
by fisherman bob
Contrived for TV BS, just like almost every other BS TV show. Next...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:17 pm
by gbheil
America is comprised of people.
Therefore She will never be perfection.
However She is a grand experiment for Liberty and Justice for all.

And if one thinks that is not enough to make Her the greatest country.
One is welcome and encouraged to leave.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:29 pm
by Starfish Scott
Rgr that, Sweden is looking good right now..wish I had more cash to make the move.

But I completely agree, if you don't like it here feel free to get the f**k out.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:55 pm
by Joewillplay
fisherman bob wrote:Contrived for TV BS, just like almost every other BS TV show. Next...
It might be all that you say,but think about it as a wake up call.While in our early years were out playing ring around the rosey,China is teaching math to the same age group.Would I trade this country for any other,hell no,but we are in know way perfect or great.Contrived BS that makes a point.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:03 pm
by GuitarMikeB
I hear it at my job all the time when we try to point out faults in the way we do business: "no one else does it any better". Yes, some do!

USA...USA...USA...USA....

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:23 pm
by Vampier
...USA...USA...USA...USA....USA....USA.... ?

Guitar Mike .. Excellent and thought provoking POST despite what anyone else may say or "think" ... well done.

That sort of thing needs to go on in every general assembly, local meeting, political rally and "Big Game" instead of mindless 1984 style chanting of USA...USA by obese and dying zombies who now masquerade as citizens ... many in ill fitting Black uniforms playing Nazi or Star Wars.

Bob ... a "fair" appraisal but often some "BS" is based upon some "Truth" as much myth is based upon fact. Next ? ...why the destruction of the USA. of course.

The "Grand Experiment for Liberty and Justice for all" is over now ... dead. Let us hope that all the remaining "real americans" do not leave the country but will reawaken shortly and get up and clean their own house instead of interfering in others and that the new false and hypocritical values of America will be flushed down the toilet with the political turds and replaced with something vastly more clean, Spiritual and wholesome.

Personally I do not see this happenning in any element of the "rotting society" that likes to parade long forgotten values and freedoms even though the have become all but extinct.

Joewillplay makes a very valid point for very soon te US Dollar will lose it's facade of value and status as the "World Currency" and be replaced by something much more real and "Chinese".

No one likes to be told the Truth when it points out that they are living a "Grand Lie" and that the mirror they "see" reality in is a manipulated and distorted carnival one. Fat stupid unhealhy and dying zombies may "think" they are part of the "Greatest Country in the World" but the sad reality is they are a laughing stock and hated by nearly now all the rest of the world. To see this one must turn off the TV, read the definition of Freedom in an old dictionary and live not just visit or invade in another country ... otherwise you simply do not know what you are talking about.


Sashouheil ... you and those like you in the U.S. are in fact the last vestige of hope and the last representatives of what once made America much better than it currently is ... I Salute you. Unless this shrinking group consolidates, organizes, sprads awareness and rekindles the flames of Freedom, Truth and Spiritual values and "cleans house" then the filth and fetid stench which has already reached epic proportions will decimate them. But this is only my little opinion not based upon any old book, belief or Fox News Update. It is merely what I "think", believe and feel.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:43 pm
by MikeTalbot
America is 'free' exactly as long as a threshold number of American patriots own firearms. That's pretty blunt but that is how it is.

There is an old saying, ''the man who has the gold has it exactly as long as the man with the sword is willing to let him have it."

Any freedom you have, if you are unarmed, is at the sufferance of the men with the guns. It's sadly just that simple.

This is why the founders so detested the thought of a strong military. They wanted our military force to exist in the citizenry thus ensuring our liberty. A nice idea.

Didn't work. We're screwed.

Talbot

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:47 pm
by Slacker G
Any freedom you have, if you are unarmed, is at the sufferance of the men with the guns. It's sadly just that simple.


Which is exactly why potus has an armed segment for every division of government from the Dpt of education to DHS. You will find an armed force at every level of government. And no one will explain why.

I would suggest that these comprise the "Civilian Force larger than the Military" that he said he wanted while he was campaigning the first time around.

EXACTLY....

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:46 pm
by Vampier
...Talbot and Slacker ... Once again very well said and astute and most probably destined to fall upon "deaf ears" even here where "musicians" gather like vultures at a watering hole. Now much has become so blatantly obvious that in itself it is a very tragic, sad and spot on demonstration of what the general "level" of conciousness is in the livestock. Talbot sums it up as usual very well and with his usual direct few words.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:54 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Slacker G wrote:
Any freedom you have, if you are unarmed, is at the sufferance of the men with the guns. It's sadly just that simple.


Which is exactly why potus has an armed segment for every division of government from the Dpt of education to DHS. You will find an armed force at every level of government. And no one will explain why.

I would suggest that these comprise the "Civilian Force larger than the Military" that he said he wanted while he was campaigning the first time around.



You guys are just pointing out the whole conundrum the radical left have. History has shown REPEATEDLY... You can not control an armed population.
Even with WMD, Chemical weapons,(Syria), human will is an indomitable factor. Mano a Mano. You may kill me... but I shall never cower in fear... And death will always just be an inevitable transition. However control of a government NOT sanctioned by me and FREEMEN through out America,will always be intolerable. (this is not about voting, this is about twisting the whole process. This is about politicians and CORPORATIONS, protecting their privileges above the rights of the individual)

As far as an armed population... There are probably more guns and ammo stored privately, than the US government could ever store. I only say this to stop the radical left from making a major mistake... Never underestimate the people you wish to engage in conflict.

Tanks and drones and nuclear weapons will never replace the need for individual control... That only comes from boots on the ground, and... guns.