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http://www.txcscopereview.com/2012/mccullough-no-books/

Ok Jeff, first off, that was one of the most poorly written and confusing articles I've read in a long time. To the point that I just googled the main terms and tried to piece together and make sense of what cscope was, and what it was about. Clearly, it wasn't the other news story I thought you were referring to.

So what we have here is a good idea- and a few whackadoo's throwing every wrench in the toolbox into it.

I honestly don't know where to begin. It looks like the system itself was presented and sold to the school district as a cost-effective method of teaching without books (cloud-based), which allows the teachers more flexibility in lesson planning, and cost savings on physical and dated materials. I honestly don't see the big deal in e-books vs. physical ones- I think it's a good idea and the publishing industry as a whole has been slowly turning in that direction for years now- think about it- Kindle sales have skyrocketed.. I can imagine one of the downfalls of this idea is that every student should be doing ALL their assignments on kindle-like pads. It's a good step into the future of learning IMO.

So where did things go wrong? It looks like they hired a bunch of failed teachers and out of work labor, most likely temps, to design "reference materials" for the knowledge-base. Anyone in IT and documentation planning could have told them THAT was a terrible move, but they probably didn't pay enough to actually have hired any manager who was qualified to know that. In fact, this looks like it's a home-business that got lucky and convinced some idiot superintendent to spend tons of $$ on it, not realizing he was buying a dud. So upon sale, you now have temps pounding away, applying their bias as they see fit. No oversight. No supervision, and no control. Half these people probably were offshore remote workers, from pakistan and india. Mexico, singapore, and who knows where else. It's pretty obvious they are in backpedal mode and denying everything, hiding behind the laws and claiming to be exempt, etc.. That's just wrong. We don't disagree here.

In my opinion, nothing here goes against anything I stand for. In fact, the strongest argument anyone can make about this clusterfuck is simply that REGULATIONS might have saved everyone a lot of grief.

For Texas, I imagine this is a colossal embarrassment, and it should be.

Again, I'm left assuming much because the reporting on this topic is terrible- not a lot of facts around and tons of conjecture. Maybe you live there and can clear up some of the details? like all of them..?


NOW.. you did know that they tried to segregate a school district in SC, right? Damn near happened. Only last minute uprising by the students themselves stopped it. These things happen, because bad people, not societies, try to make them happen. You blame SC, or any body? NO! You blame those directly responsible. Otherwise you would also blame all americans for killing innocent citizens in other countries when drones strike. No, we need to start holding PERSONS accountable, not societies.

Ok Jeff, first off, that was one of the most poorly written and confusing articles I've read in a long time. To the point that I just googled the main terms and tried to piece together and make sense of what cscope was, and what it was about. Clearly, it wasn't the other news story I thought you were referring to.

So what we have here is a good idea- and a few whackadoo's throwing every wrench in the toolbox into it.

I honestly don't know where to begin. It looks like the system itself was presented and sold to the school district as a cost-effective method of teaching without books (cloud-based), which allows the teachers more flexibility in lesson planning, and cost savings on physical and dated materials. I honestly don't see the big deal in e-books vs. physical ones- I think it's a good idea and the publishing industry as a whole has been slowly turning in that direction for years now- think about it- Kindle sales have skyrocketed.. I can imagine one of the downfalls of this idea is that every student should be doing ALL their assignments on kindle-like pads. It's a good step into the future of learning IMO.

So where did things go wrong? It looks like they hired a bunch of failed teachers and out of work labor, most likely temps, to design "reference materials" for the knowledge-base. Anyone in IT and documentation planning could have told them THAT was a terrible move, but they probably didn't pay enough to actually have hired any manager who was qualified to know that. In fact, this looks like it's a home-business that got lucky and convinced some idiot superintendent to spend tons of $$ on it, not realizing he was buying a dud. So upon sale, you now have temps pounding away, applying their bias as they see fit. No oversight. No supervision, and no control. Half these people probably were offshore remote workers, from pakistan and india. Mexico, singapore, and who knows where else. It's pretty obvious they are in backpedal mode and denying everything, hiding behind the laws and claiming to be exempt, etc.. That's just wrong. We don't disagree here.

In my opinion, nothing here goes against anything I stand for. In fact, the strongest argument anyone can make about this clusterfuck is simply that REGULATIONS might have saved everyone a lot of grief.

For Texas, I imagine this is a colossal embarrassment, and it should be.

Again, I'm left assuming much because the reporting on this topic is terrible- not a lot of facts around and tons of conjecture. Maybe you live there and can clear up some of the details? like all of them..?


NOW.. you did know that they tried to segregate a school district in SC, right? Damn near happened. Only last minute uprising by the students themselves stopped it. These things happen, because bad people, not societies, try to make them happen. You blame SC, or any body? NO! You blame those directly responsible. Otherwise you would also blame all americans for killing innocent citizens in other countries when drones strike. No, we need to start holding PERSONS accountable, not societies.

You won't find much info on CSCOPE at all it is just another liberal attempt to indoctrinate Willis (small town just north of Houston) school kids. The Feds are pushing this and to some extent covering up that fact. Again since you didn't read the article you won't know. There is a reason there is so little info brother. Why do you keep your head in the sand like that? I don't agree with your liberal agenda but at least I am open to listen and educate myself about it. You simply refuse to read or listen to any ideaology you don't agree with. It just boggles my mind how you can think that way, given how smart you are!

You won't find much info on CSCOPE at all it is just another liberal attempt to indoctrinate Willis (small town just north of Houston) school kids.

Ok, so how do you KNOW it was a 'liberal' attempt?? What on earth does political affiliation have to do with this?? This is more obviously a get-rich-quick scheme and the school district was a victim, whether out of nefarious reasons, or reasons of ignorance doesn't matter- it boils down to a person or handful of persons who created this tragedy as a means of selling a flawed and incomplete product.

The Feds are pushing this and to some extent covering up that fact. Again since you didn't read the article you won't know.

Wrong. I did read the article, I just noted on how poorly written it was, and also it's lack of viable and verifiable information. What feds are covering it up?? Maybe I missed that part?

There is a reason there is so little info brother. Why do you keep your head in the sand like that?

So you agree that there's little info, and then after I've dug up everything I could, you accuse me of having my head in the sand!? This is why I tend to avoid debating with you- you put a lot of things into the mix that are either false or assumed, and it does no good to the idea of honest debate or your ability to have it.

I don't agree with your liberal agenda but at least I am open to listen and educate myself about it. You simply refuse to read or listen to any ideaology you don't agree with.

I don't like the word liberal because it's no different than the word nigger anymore. Just another discriminatory term used to categorize a group of people and further demonize them. Might as well call me a democratic marxist.

It just boggles my mind how you can think that way, given how smart you are!

Did you read what I wrote?? I found what facts I could and remarked on them. So far, you haven't even acknowledged any of them except ones that aren't even clear. Take a step back jeff and read what you have written.. it's blind rage anymore.. stop accusing me of being part of these "groups" of forcibly depicted demonic people .. if you are really interested in understanding my political philosophy, then first and foremost, you need to separate me from your views on liberals. I don't ask that you change your views on them, that's your right to think what you want to think, but don't include me in that- I'm not at all what you think. This isn't black and white.

from south park (episode was actually on last night and very apt to this discussion)..

"To me, you're just another niggerguy"