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Alright, so I've been in a group for about 3-4 years, and I have plenty of fun with it, but there are some issues with our sound. We've been playing a alternative/punkish rock sound, mostly originals, and we're happy with our sound, but the problem is, many people have complained about our singer, and has said he's terrible, but the one redeeming factor they tell me, is that he can Rap very well. I like his singing, but I don't want our band to be hindered by him. My drummer has suggested maybe a change in music direction, but we like our direction right now. Do we change based on our crowd reaction, or do we stay the same and be happy? I need advise.

Also, I'm willing to post our band if you want to give your opinion.

Dude . . . my opinion is no more valid than another.
It's just an opinion.
There will always be haters, BUT , if the singer is predominately the complaint perhaps a change is needed.
There should be open candid band meetings about your direction.
We do so at least once a month.


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You could also encourage him to do some lessons?

Thank you for your reply, I agree with the band meeting, and we might talk about voice lessons. I'm just in a tough position because I don't know if he's really as bad as people say, or he's different. I mean, I like him, but I'm afraid my opinion might be biased. Honest opinion welcomed
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How much feed back do you really get from the crowd.I man do they come up to you after a show and say your singer sucks or is this feed back every time they hear.I'd say blow it off.If you think the singer is good for your music stay with it,if there is not a special connection between the band and the singer and it deters people from coming to see or hear you I say cut bait and fish for a new singer,I guess it comes to how serious you are.

Most "pop" & "country" singers suck IMO . . . but make millions of fans and dollars sucking. ( go figure ) LMAO

But hey, if you want to post some samples, I'd be glad to give you my .02.

It's sort of a mixed response, but I hear still hear that he's bad, and some people say it ruins us completely. All of us in the band like our singer, and we have a great connection. I feel like we have something great, but I could be biased. I posted our band in a post above, and I said all feedback, as brutally honest, is welcome.

Oh my . . . now I understand . . .

I can see why, as a band member, one could "like" what your vocalist is doing.
It's different, and as such, fits into the band persona.

However, those outside the band, are not going to be in tune to said persona.


Our previous vocalist, I love dearly, fit the band persona, sang some of our material very well. ( others not so well )
Those on the outside were, how shall I say . . . less enthusiastic ??

He undertook a singing success program ( series of CD's he purchased ) that over the course of a year really made a difference. His "persona" or "flavor" did not change, yet he was much more able to communicate same in an audience friendly manor.

Our current vocalist is still adjusting to singing "rock" music as most of his background is choir or "praise & worship" type of endeavors.

Meet / discuss, and help him to understand that all members of a band must grow and change.

So, you think we should get him some sort of vocal lessons/program? I'll bring it up in our meeting. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Zerozep480 wrote:So, you think we should get him some sort of vocal lessons/program? I'll bring it up in our meeting. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Yes, I do.

Your welcome.

Best wishes, blessed Sunday.

It comes down to a quality control thing. No band goes unscathed, I would think. The members are responsible to uphold the quality...That means your singer needs to step his game up...For that to happen, you guys have to inform him of the truth about his singing. Anything less is just bullshit...and it doesn't serve anybody well. It also helps if you can assure the mates that nobody is trying to throw anybody under the bus... Treat each other like the family you love...

PaperDog wrote:It comes down to a quality control thing. No band goes unscathed, I would think. The members are responsible to uphold the quality...That means your singer needs to step his game up...For that to happen, you guys have to inform him of the truth about his singing. Anything less is just bullshit...and it doesn't serve anybody well. It also helps if you can assure the mates that nobody is trying to throw anybody under the bus... Treat each other like the family you love...

Amen

Thank you for the feedback. It is difficult to tell someone that they need to fix something, but we have to realize the band must fix its problems to move forward. Thank you all!

lol You can teach a dog to rap, but you can't teach him to sing.

I'd get a singer that maybe wasn't a decent rapper and then work with him to be better.

A bad singer is more difficult to correct OR endure.
If he has pitch problems, the dog singer would be more preferable.
Even the howling sounds better.

MANY bands are synonymous with their singers. It's almost a 50-50 thing, as in 50 % singer and 50 % band.

If you have a great band a lousy singer, you're starting at only 50% and that's if your band is awesome.

There is one thing that always holds a band back in making a change in vocals - singers are hard to get.

In original bands the singer is often part of the song writing team. If that's the case it must be considered as well.

Having ANY singer means you can work. Losing your singer means you won't work and puts the whole endeavor at risk as the band loses momentum while you dick around looking for a new vocalist.

Best to have one up your sleeve before you make any changes.

Talbot

MikeTalbot wrote:There is one thing that always holds a band back in making a change in vocals - singers are hard to get.

In original bands the singer is often part of the song writing team. If that's the case it must be considered as well.

Having ANY singer means you can work. Losing your singer means you won't work and puts the whole endeavor at risk as the band loses momentum while you dick around looking for a new vocalist.

Talbot

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