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John lee hooker and Buddy Guy

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:28 pm
by Joewillplay
I sat back and started listening to two of my favorite blues artist the other night,and as I listened once again the purity of the sound back then was amazing.
A simple sometime 4,8,or 12 beat pattern and classic message of love gone wrong,bad times on the horizon and a way out the back door as not to get caught with somebodies woman.
Music was simple then and chords were being developed that set the course for a lot of people.
So in the end the music you make is equal to the music you give

Re: John lee hooker and Buddy Guy

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:06 am
by PaperDog
Joewillplay wrote:I sat back and started listening to two of my favorite blues artist the other night,and as I listened once again the purity of the sound back then was amazing.
A simple sometime 4,8,or 12 beat pattern and classic message of love gone wrong,bad times on the horizon and a way out the back door as not to get caught with somebodies woman.
Music was simple then and chords were being developed that set the course for a lot of people.
So in the end the music you make is equal to the music you give


Just Learned "BooM Boom", John Lee hooker style... No love gone wrong there...That old man was excited! "...raght off o hi feet!"

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:04 am
by Joewillplay
great song one you can do it like Hooker or even make it your own,it's that kinda song.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:48 am
by fisherman bob
I've lived it musically for 30+ years. Simple is better for me. But I'm capable of playing more complicated material, but it starts with the basics, and the basics don't get any better than those two guys.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:55 am
by Joewillplay
[quote="fisherman bob"]I've lived it musically for 30+ years. Simple is better for me. But I'm capable of playing more complicated material, but it starts with the basics, and the basics don't get any better than those two guys.[/quote I don't think iv'e heard it put better than that Bob

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:14 am
by PaperDog
Joewillplay wrote:great song one you can do it like Hooker or even make it your own,it's that kinda song.


There are some songs...Well...You can make it your own and sound cool...but ya cant make it your own and sound 'old-black-man cool' and Boom Boom would be one of those. Eric Burden and the Animals tried it...They did a clean Rock n Roll version of it... But you just cant taste that Mississippi in it. The only Way I'm gonna own a smidgen of it is that I'll sit when I play and twist it up by wearing sun Glasses ...BTW its a direct root of ZZ Top's La grange ..They swapped the Mississippi flavor out for Texas flavor instead.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:26 am
by Joewillplay
PaperDog wrote:
Joewillplay wrote:great song one you can do it like Hooker or even make it your own,it's that kinda song.


There are some songs...Well...You can make it your own and sound cool...but ya cant make it your own and sound 'old-black-man cool' and Boom Boom would be one of those. Eric Burden and the Animals tried it...They did a clean Rock n Roll version of it... But you just cant taste that Mississippi in it. The only Way I'm gonna own a smidgen of it is that I'll sit when I play and twist it up by wearing sun Glasses ...BTW its a direct root of ZZ Top's La grange ..They swapped the Mississippi flavor out for Texas flavor instead.
I stand corrected you make very good sense and I would prefer to do it as you do as well,but for those who can;t quite capture that old sound it gives them an option for a great song.
All in all your right.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:23 pm
by PaperDog
fisherman bob wrote:I've lived it musically for 30+ years. Simple is better for me. But I'm capable of playing more complicated material, but it starts with the basics, and the basics don't get any better than those two guys.


AGreed... I'm experienceing that lesson now... , I'm working on a Keb Mo jazzy version of 'Dangerous Mood'. and there's this transition where he uses some whacky dim 9th or sumethin.. in place of an F major chord...
That is kicking my ass (and I still havent figured out the chord he uses there) But the other day I used the F maj, when I rehearsed with the the bassist...and it worked beutifully, rich teeth in the muscle tone... So were keepin it and its simple resolution :)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:14 am
by fisherman bob
PaperDog wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:I've lived it musically for 30+ years. Simple is better for me. But I'm capable of playing more complicated material, but it starts with the basics, and the basics don't get any better than those two guys.


AGreed... I'm experienceing that lesson now... , I'm working on a Keb Mo jazzy version of 'Dangerous Mood'. and there's this transition where he uses some whacky dim 9th or sumethin.. in place of an F major chord...
That is kicking my ass (and I still havent figured out the chord he uses there) But the other day I used the F maj, when I rehearsed with the the bassist...and it worked beutifully, rich teeth in the muscle tone... So were keepin it and its simple resolution :)
. The beauty of blues is you CAN do some complicated things within its context, yet it still sounds simple. Don't be afraid to experiment and sometimes even your mistakes become wonderful additions to songs. Take for example the tune on my player "Mess'in With the Kid". That weird ending where we hit the A flat and then pause was originally a mistake, but it sounded so cool we added it to the song!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:35 am
by Joewillplay
Paperdog it sounds as though you figured out whats working for you.That"s
The thing I think about.It's like Bob says,and how many mistake chords did Elmore James hit that became one of his songs.I am sure most were self taught.Oh that raw sound.