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DRUMMERS part 2

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:08 pm
by JohnnyBold
--------DRUMMERS II (the sequel)---------
OK, so whilst I'm addressing the drumming community, I may as well add my other drumming concern.... "Dribble Foot". Dribble foot is my term for unintended kick drum rumble. This usually occurs from the following: When a drummer plays the kick drum and lets the beater rest against the head, thus the beater rides the rest of the drum resonance and bounces against the head, or when a drummer leaves the beater on the head and keeps time or subdivisions of time lightly with their foot. The resulting low end rumble causes a lack of clarity in the bass region. This lack of clarity will most likely end up in a reduction of low end in a live mix as the live sound engineer franticly tries to "clean up the mud". Alternatively In the recording studio, the bill gets higher as the savvy audio engineer tries to clean the mud by editing out the offending dribbles. And this is a LOT of editing! So as a concerned "music citizen" I offer this advise: When playing a kick drum....."Hit it and Quit it"...... No, not the groupies, the kick drum. he he

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:24 pm
by VinnyViolin
You are describing a post 1960's rock drummer. Drummers were not generally mic'd for live performances in clubs etc. while playing alongside cranked Marshall stacks and Fender Twins for most of the 60's and some 70's. That pretty much filtered out any jazz subtleties from most new players. By the time drums began getting mic'd up in clubs that was already the style and sound for rock ... no more buzz rolls or brushes, but lots of broken cymbals, heads and sticks! Rock is the greatest boon to ever to musical instrument manufacturers :lol:

Basically you are looking for a jazz drummer.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:25 pm
by jimmydanger
For a guitar player you sure like to tell drummers what to do. Generally speaking, I hire the best people I can and trust them to do what they were trained to do. This allows me to focus on what I need to focus on.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:53 pm
by GuitarMikeB
No profile info. My guess is that he's got a beef with a particular drummer who he believes is on bandmix ... :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:07 pm
by Kramerguy
This is funny.. Has to be a troll..

Of all the problems I've had over the years with drummers... everything from alcoholism to drama club, to being a puzzie whipped, no rhythm, no timing, sorry excuse for a back-beat... the grievances of the poster are quite silly in comparison.

If a drummer can hold a rhythm and be an easy person to deal with, that's 90% of the battle IMO. I'm so glad our current drummer doesn't have any of these or the OP's drummer issues :)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:15 pm
by Starfish Scott
I love a good drummer that you don't have to even speak with to get it "right". (feel drummer)

The rest of them are self-proclaimed bongo beaters who think their drums are performing a melodic function.

BWahahahaaaa No, you keep time and please be dynamic.

Otherwise I don't want to hear it.

I notice many drummers seem to either be no problem or "bipolar".

Can't we have a happy medium?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:45 pm
by VinnyViolin
Starfish Scott wrote:The rest of them are self-proclaimed bongo beaters ......

http://youtu.be/NVoYo8jpuT0
Don't blame it on the bongos! :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:50 pm
by Chippy
Just because you haven't found a decent drummer that you can grind into the ground with heavy guitar, or a maniac bass player who drives every essence from a beat out of the poor guy.

Tiredness can play a part, and whilst the effervescent guitarist who drops no notes, who thinks he's God incarnate doesn't make any mistakes glares at him for perhaps dropping a stick, smiling or having a good time, lol!

I think this is the reason some of you use drum machines! :D

I've known some fab drummers, I'm really sorry, that you didn't.

Was this post for real, or was it a wind up?
I got wound. Sorry.

Cheers - Chipfryer

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:46 pm
by Planetguy
i'm a lucky sumbitch on sooooooooooooo many levels...including the drummers i've worked with.

not only has the number of good drummers i've worked w FAR exceeded the number of bad ones...

some people are lucky to find one great drummer they can enjoy a long term relationship w.

someone who they enjoy playing with over many yrs and maybe even in a few different bands/projects.

i've been lucky enough to experience that w SEVERAL rhythm section cohorts who i count as rhythm soulmates.

sad to think there might some people out there that haven't enjoyed that exp.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:16 pm
by J-HALEY
Hey ya'll know what a drummer gets on their SAT?.............................







Drool! :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:29 pm
by MikeTalbot
I have one outstanding drummer in mind when I hear drums and I don't hear that guy (Chris Sherlock) and sounds wrong somehow.

I've worked with several who were as good as him and one that might have been better but they were all real packages.

Drummers and singers - rich will be the drug company that figures out a anti-depressant that works on both! :wink:

Talbot