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you will never hurt my feelings cyber-friends! .. this was recorded at Donnie Osmond's cousins place in Marshfield, I play guitar / dobro/ and sing/ Tim programmed bass and drums/lyrics by Doug Jones / Chariton, Iowa .. tune was co-written by Doug Jones and Dane Ellis Allen .. Doug provided lyrics I wrote the music..

Too much treble on your vocals, push em back in the mix.

Reminds me of a male vocal doing Janis Joplin type thing via and "Me and bobby McGee".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXV_QjenbDw
Her vocals for this tune is too far forward in the mix as well. (imo)

Very interesting..

I gave it 3 listens and like the feel of the song... but I think it needs a little tightening in the performance. Seems to be some timing issues. Not sure if it was the snare or guitar but made it feel a little clumsy in spots. Also the Mega Hall Reverb on the dobro makes it sound almost ghost-like. Takes away from any melody being played. I'd pull back on that to make it more dicernable.
Just my thoughts...
Good luck with it.

what the other guys said, especially about the vocals- too much treble, and too "forward" in the mix.

I can't really comment on the song itself (arrangement, writing) because this isn't my cup of tea really.

we sound exactly like the Flying Burrito Brothers .. LOL!

Mix thoughts:
During the instrumental part, the slide/resonator needs to be brought up a lot, and probably needs a little more volume as accent between phrases - it sounds like it may have been recorded with a mic too far away in the room. The hi-hat/shaker sound is too up front and trebly.

It's not bad Dane and I bet it's better live.

A recording is good when it's good and lousy when it's bad, but you can't make up for phrasing that isn't there.

It's pretty reasonable..odd that it sounds like Joplin to me but hey, you'll fill seats.

there were so many problems that arose at this session on Wednesday, that it was almost funny..as though a sinister force was trying to abort it.. but we managed to pull it off ..at 10 dollars an hour I was not going to complain, and really think Tim is the best engineer living at that low price...who wants to pay $80.00 an hour for similar quality as this $10.00 an hour studio in a well built living room of a house in Marshfield?

lol I'd bet on the 10$ an hour thing like white on rice.

Who cares if it's trebly>? (sP)

Starfish Scott wrote:It's not bad Dane and I bet it's better live.

A recording is good when it's good and lousy when it's bad, but you can't make up for phrasing that isn't there.

It's pretty reasonable..odd that it sounds like Joplin to me but hey, you'll fill seats.

there are a thousand different ways I could have added phrasing or subtracted even more phrasing then what's here on this recording right now.. do you overplay or underplay? that is the question... space in time is as important as a flurry of ugly 1/64 notes..

Chief, I can not understand whether you disagree that the top tier recording studios in Branson fetch $80.00 an hour or whether you doubt this was a $10.00 an hour recording? yes it cost me $22.50 yesterday and could have been under $20.00 but problems arose.. not with playing but equipment glitches etc.

No you're missing it Dane, it was reasonably well phrased.

Play what you feel and don't think too much for fear you'll spoil it.

Feel it but don't over think it. If it oozes out of your pores, kind of subconsciously, you are generally better off.

If you have to write a dissertation on it, it's going to come out like you forgot and cooked it too long and too hard.

Next thing you know, all you have is glue.

"Take the 10$ recording and rejoice, it's plenty to get your foot in the door".

I'll send you my bill. LMAO

If I was closer, I'd be going to the 10$ studio FOR SURE.

"Booze is better, but liquor is quicker.." LOL

(If that recording bothers you, just have it re-mastered. It's cheap AND easy.)

Scott, I am not in that school of thought, such as the
Don Fagen / Steely Dan doctrine would dictate...you ought to go to wikipedia and read about the making of the album "Gaucho" by Steely Dan and then ask yourself do you want to emulate that? at that cost? and that amount of session players being paid? I think not... look how many dollars was spent on that album, (perhaps my favorite album of all time?) and decide if they saw a good return on investment..

You'd shudder if you knew what I can do with 1 other person and a GOOD 10$/hr studio.

Fact is they really don't exist.

You found the diamond in the rough.

If you don't like the result, I reiterate, have it remastered.