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Hey guys,

Just came across this cool song/songwriters competition:

http://www.talenthouse.com/submit-a-tra ... d-and-avid

Need to be quick tho if you wanna enter... deadline for entries is tomorrow (March 13th) at 10:30 PDT... (17:30 GMT)

Good luck...

JTK...

Yeah, and you sign away all rights to your song in that contest!!

Yer probably right, Mike, good point. There's usually a catch. Never get nothing for nothing. But stll, some folks might want to enter anyways...

Talenthouse Terms and Conditions

By submitting User Content to us, simultaneously with such submission you automatically grant,
or warrant that the owner has expressly granted, to us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual,
irrevocable, non-exclusive, fully sublicensable, and transferable right and license to use,
distribute, publicly display, transmit, and publish the User Content (in whole or in part) on or in
connection with the Website, the promotion of the Website, and/or the promotion of our clients
and/or promotional partners and their products or services.

Among other things.

From their Rules page:

6. Publicity Release; Use of Personal Information. By accepting a prize, all winners agree and acknowledge that Sponsor and any of its designees, clients, sponsors, or licensees may, without any limitation or further compensation, use his/her name, voice, biographical data, likeness, picture, entry materials, photograph, Work (in whole or in part), city name and audio and/or video recording of him/her in any and all media now known or hereinafter devised, throughout the universe and in perpetuity, for the purpose of advertising and promoting the Contest or for any other promotional purpose, except where prohibited by law. By participating in the Contest, entrants will be sharing their personal information with Sponsor. Personal information collected by Sponsor will be used for administration of the Contest and awarding the prize and as set forth in the Privacy Policy.

7. Grant of Rights. By entering the Contest, entrants irrevocably grant Sponsor, its subsidiaries, divisions, affiliates, designees, clients, sponsors, licensees, and advertising and promotional agencies, an unlimited, worldwide, perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free, unconditional license and absolute right to edit, post, publish, store, copy, transmit, publicly display, and exhibit, the Work (in whole or in part) in connection with the Contest and/or the promotion of the Contest. Upon Sponsor's request, winners agree to sign any and all legal forms deemed necessary to license or assign all right, title and interest in and to the Work, including without limitation, all copyrights associated therewith, in exchange for the Prizes set forth above.


OUCH!!!!

#7 = If you win, we basically will give you a prize and we OWN your song, you get no rights to any royalties or compensation whatsoever, ever, period.

What a "screw you" policy!

That's exactly why song competitions are for suckers and babies who think there is a short cut to the top.

Guess again.

Hey... didn't expect any replies on this thread. But interesting the responses so far.

"Read The Small Print" (very carefully) seems to be the consensus.

Still, I'd probably have entered just for the fun of it, (if I had a finished tune I thought was suitable)... not because I'm a sucker or a silly kid with stars in his eyes mind you... more like a "been round-the-block" too many times to count, been "screwed" enough times for it not to make much of a difference anymore, grumpy old 54 year old...


I'm on the left btw


But seriously tho... good points all... "buyer beware!!!"... ... always sound advice.

What the heck. I just checked and it's not like I am raking in millions of royalties on my other songs so nothing to lose really. If one song becomes a hit and others notice, it's a foot in the door. A good investment in time for an aspiring songwriter I'd say. Probably a better deal than most major recording contracts.

Chit I thought about entering... it's not like I'm holding on to some gold gems. Readying for some platnum release!
And I could use the software if I won.
Maybe not my best song... just something I think is good. That I wouldn't embarrass myself with. Anyway it's just a song. You'll make more. Aint getting any younger.

Thejohnny7band wrote:What the heck. I just checked and it's not like I am raking in millions of royalties on my other songs so nothing to lose really. If one song becomes a hit and others notice, it's a foot in the door. A good investment in time for an aspiring songwriter I'd say. Probably a better deal than most major recording contracts.

Imagine a digital and internet version of the John Fogerty story, where he wasn't even allowed to cover the music he wrote because he didn't own it.

ANY contest that wants you to sign over ownership of your work is going to screw the bejesus out of you. They don't even have to put your name on the finished product. In all likelyhood, they would sell it to justin beeber and HE would get all the fame and credits / ownership rights. You would still be an unknown, poor, dimeless bastard hanging out at the local bar telling tall tales about how you really wrote that song, and nobody would believe you. You would start to carry proof that you won a contest with it, making you seem only more pathetic and clinging to the one that got away.

Not a pretty picture, is it?

There's NOTHING good that can come out of this contest, except maybe the prizes, if those are in all actuality what they say they are...

The say you win pro tools.. how do you know it's not a 30-day TRIAL ? F them.

Someone had posted this before (either here or the homerecording forum), which is why I knew about the rights thing. Note the song has to be under 4 minutes long - more often than not I find my songs exceeding that, I don't pay attention to the length until I'm at the mix-down stage.

Mike just pull the faders like i did on the Uka song.
Hell that songs a throw away... maybe I'll enter it!

I've got plenty of throw-away songs, but don't you guess they get a couple of hundred (or thousand) entries?

Yup!
Avid sent these e-mails out weeks ago i would imagine to tens of thousands of registered users. Still probably a lot of people just ignore it or think it's a scam or are just down on contests. (They're all rigged)
It's just a roll of the dice!