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How to Win Any Climate Change Argument

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:56 pm
by Mike Nobody
How to Win Any Climate Change Argument
A flow chart for debating with denialists.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:26 pm
by GuitarMikeB
I think there needs to be more arrows to the 'let's have a drink' part! :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:38 pm
by Kramerguy
In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:17 pm
by Sir Jamsalot
haha. the sun has been cooling, huh? well, there ya go... climate change.

If I recall correctly, we only have about a year or so left before Al Gore's 10 year prediction of catastrophe hits. Just wouldn't be proper science without alarmists screaming bloody murder.

The scientific crowd is suffering from what Kramer describes right now. Eyes wide shut for fear of being ousted from the scientific community as a "denyer".

I have a prediction for you. One of these days, a moth is going to flutter its wings in China and cause a hurricane in Florida...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:20 pm
by Slacker G
You forgot to mention that they have discovered trees that had grown under the glaciers in Antarctica when it was once a once tropical climate.

Back in those days the prehistoric people bitched about driving SUV's and humans stopped driving them. Next thing you know it became an uninhabitable Iceland. Rather a be careful what you wish for moment to those prehistoric folks. :)

Now explain why the sun is out of the equation and the fact that other planets in our solar system are also warming. Or should I say were warming, since we have been in a cooling trend for some time. But every warm winter (The greenies seem to disappear during the colder winters) and during every warm day there is a lameatream media blitz on global warming. Oh yeah, screwed up again. They had to change global warming to climate change since the proof that we have been cooling was presented.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:30 am
by MikeTalbot
Climate change? Sorry baby, as Ian Hunter would say, "once bit and twice shy..."

Any idea why modern office buildings don't have windows that will open? Climate change my friends! It was the terrifying new ice age that was approaching at breakneck speed - in the '70s...

Never showed up though.

And like Slacker noted - does the Sun have nothing to do with climate?

I personally believe that if we executed ALL the politicians in the world, a temperate climate would descend upon us and life would become wonderful. Send me 5$ and a self addressed stamped envelope and I'm sure I can dredge up some charts that will prove this conclusively.

I could be wrong of course - but how will we know until we try? :wink:

Talbot

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:48 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Good Lord... I have to bring this up again.
European air flights have a $35 dollar climate change tax on the tickets. It is a tax that is being collected and no one can say where this money is going.

This is about politicians getting rich and dominance on the backs of every one else. This is not about climate control... This is about population control.

All you climate control people... GO TO HELL!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:14 am
by RGMixProject
GLENNY J wrote:Good Lord... I have to bring this up again.
European air flights have a $35 dollar climate change tax on the tickets. It is a tax that is being collected and no one can say where this money is going.

This is about politicians getting rich and dominance on the backs of every one else. This is not about climate control... This is about population control.

All you climate control people... GO TO HELL!!!!


I love climate change

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:31 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
RGMixProject wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:Good Lord... I have to bring this up again.
European air flights have a $35 dollar climate change tax on the tickets. It is a tax that is being collected and no one can say where this money is going.

This is about politicians getting rich and dominance on the backs of every one else. This is not about climate control... This is about population control.

All you climate control people... GO TO HELL!!!!


I love climate change

Top goes up


Top goes down


Top goes up

Top goes down




AWD





2WD




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RG, I love your sense of humor. Please don't downplay the worldwide BULL SHIIT.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:48 pm
by Kramerguy
GLENNY J wrote:Good Lord... I have to bring this up again.
European air flights have a $35 dollar climate change tax on the tickets. It is a tax that is being collected and no one can say where this money is going.

This is about politicians getting rich and dominance on the backs of every one else. This is not about climate control... This is about population control.

All you climate control people... GO TO HELL!!!!


I would argue that population control is desperately needed.. we are nearing 7Bil resource-drains on the planet. There's just no way we can sustain what we have, much less double it every 15 years. This is why the human race is doomed. That, and capitalism, which by very nature calls for population increases, the more the better.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:19 am
by fisherman bob
As usual I have the answer
Http://www.levitynews.com/global-warming/
When Scandinavians settled Greenland they were farming. Fifty years later there wasn't any soil to farm, it was ice, and the colony disappeared.
In the dinosaur era the Earth was much warmer than today. We are going through an anomaly. Whether it's man-made or not is conjecture. Right now March in K.C. is 13 degrees below normal.
When everybody is freezing their ass off, like in SoUTHERN China this WINTER I wonder which faction will be "in vogue."

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:53 pm
by Cajundaddy
Or just read a little about Earth's climate history. Climate Optimum (Warmer than now) sounded pretty good.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:59 pm
by fisherman bob
Dinosaur farts must have ben pretty potent. It was a lot warmer then.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:44 pm
by Sir Jamsalot
Kramerguy wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:Good Lord... I have to bring this up again.
European air flights have a $35 dollar climate change tax on the tickets. It is a tax that is being collected and no one can say where this money is going.

This is about politicians getting rich and dominance on the backs of every one else. This is not about climate control... This is about population control.

All you climate control people... GO TO HELL!!!!


I would argue that population control is desperately needed.. we are nearing 7Bil resource-drains on the planet. There's just no way we can sustain what we have, much less double it every 15 years. This is why the human race is doomed. That, and capitalism, which by very nature calls for population increases, the more the better.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:48 am
by Slacker G
fisherman bob wrote:Dinosaur farts must have ben pretty potent. It was a lot warmer then.


Bob,

You could teach Al Gore a thing or two.

You should write a book called "An Inconvenient Smell"