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#205672 by justin_morrello
Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:42 pm
I want to meet people who like everything out there from pop to rock to metal to dance and I want to do it all mainly revolving around those three genres and their subgenres(POP/ROCK/DANCE that is). I've done some country and christian but its not my major jam ya know. metal i still write here n there for fun. but okay cool so if you f**k love music and just wanna write some cool sh*t and start something new them contact via facebook, prefer someone around my age, I'm 21. Justin Mulherin. facebook me. now

Danke Schon

#205674 by Peg Lautny
Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:52 pm
Be bold. Be adventurous. Take a chance or two. And think about playing with some people NOT your own age. I can't tell you how much I've learned from working with older people who were generous enough to put up with my dumbass.

Worried about not having enough in common? Trust me, older (and more skilled, more experienced) musicians do have other things to converse upon besides their favorite denture adhesive, where to get the best prices on Depends, or their prostate problems.

And as for wanting to do a variety of music....why wouldn't you want to work with someone who actually has some real world experience PLAYING that stuff?

...unless of course, you're put off by "old person smell". That's ALWAYS a deal breaker for me! :roll:

#205678 by MikeTalbot
Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:03 pm
Alright...I guess I'll invest in some deoderant. :oops:

I play old guitars too - I'll give 'em a sniff tonight! That old tele may have to go I'm afraid...

Talbot

#205681 by Planetguy
Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:13 pm
bravo peg!

i couldn't agree more. i have a few ads up (i'm always looking for pickup gigs, new projects, etc) and it's a little disheartening how many "serious" musicians who respond....and their first (and sometimes ONLY) question is "how old are you?"

i've started including at the end of the ads.....

Relevant: that you can play and aren't a jerk.

Irrelevant: your age....as long as you're old enough to drive to the gig and not TOO old to carry your own equipment.

#205683 by Planetguy
Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:19 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Alright...I guess I'll invest in some deoderant. :oops:

I play old guitars too - I'll give 'em a sniff tonight! That old tele may have to go I'm afraid...

Talbot


mike, i think peg was referring to "old person smell" which CAN be accompanied by B.O. but they are horses of a different stank. still, i applaud your intitiative!

and i think you should definitely discard that tele asap. please I.M. me for my shipping address so we can arrange shipment.

#205688 by jw123
Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:45 pm
My thoughts on this are dont limit the ages of your players if you want to do all these styles.

Younger players tend to specialize in the music they like, ussually in one genre. And it ussually tends to be heavier music. Most of the CL ads I see are younger players and they tend to all want to do heavy music of one genre or another.

Im 50 and have been playing since I was 10 yrs old. As a teenager I played heavy music, cause it was just what I liked at the time, I play in a heavy rock cover band cause I like it, but over the years, I have played R&B, Blues, Jazz, Funk/Dance music. If you see my cover band today you would think all I play is heavy music, but if you heard me at home practicing, lately Ive been really getting into Stax/Motown guitar.

Good Luck finding musicians

#205704 by Planetguy
Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:37 pm
jw123 wrote:.... but if you heard me at home practicing, lately Ive been really getting into Stax/Motown guitar.



yeah, i've always dug that style too. sliding around those little 3 or 4 note chords and the "horn stab" stuff... it's a blast to play w the right folks.

JW....have you studied/checked out any of the gtr work on older james brown stuff from the 60's and early '70's? very much in that same bag. no keys on most of that stuff...just two gtrs. one usually playing some cool little figure and the other doing rhythmically interesting stabs. it's really cool the way those seemingly simple parts hook up w the rest of the rhythm section and horns.

#205705 by jw123
Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:43 pm
I love that style of guitar Planet, Ive kinda been getting into it lately.

When I think about is, someone like Eddie Van Halen did a lot of similiar things, playing little 2-3 note chords, with a lot my distortion and aggression, but in a wierd way it kinda relates in my mind.

#205707 by PaperDog
Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:47 pm
Peg Lautny wrote:Be bold. Be adventurous. Take a chance or two. And think about playing with some people NOT your own age. I can't tell you how much I've learned from working with older people who were generous enough to put up with my dumbass.

Worried about not having enough in common? Trust me, older (and more skilled, more experienced) musicians do have other things to converse upon besides their favorite denture adhesive, where to get the best prices on Depends, or their prostate problems.

And as for wanting to do a variety of music....why wouldn't you want to work with someone who actually has some real world experience PLAYING that stuff?

...unless of course, you're put off by "old person smell". That's ALWAYS a deal breaker for me! :roll:


We share the same idea about age... Right Now, I'm working with a guy who is senior to me... i cant think of a better situation to be in...The best part is they aren't prima-donas... The egos aren't the prevailing energy. Sage wisdom, relaxed, and its all good. When I think of how far my head was up my own ass when I was much younger...
I have learned the extraordinary benefits of being humble with these guys...

#205712 by DainNobody
Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:03 pm
I was at an auction the other day since the ad said a Takamine guitar, a Gibson/Epiphone Explorer, a Epiphone mandolin, and a Squire Strat would be auctioned off, I was fiddling around with the Takamine G-Series doing my hybrid Doc Watson rip-off style technique and was told I was sh*t hot by a JohnnyDoxx guy who lived in Bruner..never met him before, but it's always nice to get complimented on your playing, unlike here.. here, the glass is always half empty instead of half full.. another kid wanted to know if I give lessons? I'm an old fart but still people find me amusing when I play live.. what's up with this? I'm old and should be declining?..LOL

#205721 by Peg Lautny
Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:22 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I'm an old fart but still people find me amusing when I play live... what's up with this? I'm old and should be declining?..LOL


I'm not sure at what age your skills would start to decline playing guitar or bass. I'd think earlier for wind instruments or perhaps something as physically demanding as playing (and hauling/setting up) drums.

One thing I am sure about is that at 24 I'm a better musician now than I was when I was 21. And I'm certain I'll be better at 34. Even better at 44. And.....

If your goal is to play with the best musicians who'll have you (and it SHOULD be) why would you want to limit your possibilities?

#205726 by Cajundaddy
Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:36 pm
Les Paul was tearing up the frets well into his 80s. I would have played with LP anytime. I probably would have even carried his amp in for him.

#205734 by Starfish Scott
Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:57 pm
You have to be careful about the use of the words, "prima donna".

People use it to cover for their own shortcomings and I doubt if they even know what it means without googling it.

I'll play with absolutely anyone if I like their music/style.


If they smell like anything bad, save their dollar store deodorant, they are toast.

(The smell that drives me nuts is "Moth Balls") (no not those, you jackass) lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothball

Wash yourself and your clothes or you will the butt of many jokes, none of them funny.

#205805 by PaperDog
Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:33 am
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:You have to be careful about the use of the words, "prima donna".

People use it to cover for their own shortcomings and I doubt if they even know what it means without googling it.

I'll play with absolutely anyone if I like their music/style.


If they smell like anything bad, save their dollar store deodorant, they are toast.

(The smell that drives me nuts is "Moth Balls") (no not those, you jackass) lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothball

Wash yourself and your clothes or you will the butt of many jokes, none of them funny.


I dont ever use terms loosely. In the Music biz, I've noticed a crap-load of self -adorning wannabes, whom...in my opinion, are metaphorically best described as 'prima donnas'. I'm talking about kids who were told...and indeed did have 'some' talent and then got caught up in their own exhaust fumes. If you hear me calling you a prima donna, you can best be assured , I'm using it 180 out of context of 'excellence' 8). I know if a keyboard player like that...He was damn good..and he knew it! It sucks to be in his presence. LOL

Modern usage
At times, these "prime donne" (the Italian plural form) were grand with their off-stage personalities, and demands on fellow troupe members, musicians, set and wardrobe designers, producers and other staff but were deferentially tolerated because of their commensurate talent and "pulling power," that is, their draw at the box office. From this experience, the term "prima donna" has come into common usage in any field denoting someone who behaves in a demanding, often temperamental fashion, revealing an inflated view of themselves, their talent, and their importance.[4] Due to this association, the contemporary meaning of the word has taken on this negative connotation. Today the term has become a mainstream word outside opera to often describe a vain, undisciplined, egotistical, obnoxious or temperamental person who finds it difficult to work under direction or as part of a team but whose contributions are essential to the success of a team.[5][6][/b]

#205806 by DainNobody
Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:38 am
PaperDog wrote:
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:You have to be careful about the use of the words, "prima donna".

People use it to cover for their own shortcomings and I doubt if they even know what it means without googling it.

I'll play with absolutely anyone if I like their music/style.


If they smell like anything bad, save their dollar store deodorant, they are toast.

(The smell that drives me nuts is "Moth Balls") (no not those, you jackass) lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothball

Wash yourself and your clothes or you will the butt of many jokes, none of them funny.


I dont ever use terms loosely. In the Music biz, I've noticed a crap-load of self -adorning wannabes, whom...in my opinion, are metaphorically best described as 'prima donnas'. I'm talking about kids who were told...and indeed did have 'some' talent and then got caught up in their own exhaust fumes. If you hear me calling you a prima donna, you can best be assured , I'm using it 180 out of context of 'excellence' 8). I know if a keyboard player like that...He was damn good..and he knew it! It sucks to be in his presence. LOL

Modern usage
At times, these "prime donne" (the Italian plural form) were grand with their off-stage personalities, and demands on fellow troupe members, musicians, set and wardrobe designers, producers and other staff but were deferentially tolerated because of their commensurate talent and "pulling power," that is, their draw at the box office. From this experience, the term "prima donna" has come into common usage in any field denoting someone who behaves in a demanding, often temperamental fashion, revealing an inflated view of themselves, their talent, and their importance.[4] Due to this association, the contemporary meaning of the word has taken on this negative connotation. Today the term has become a mainstream word outside opera to often describe a vain, undisciplined, egotistical, obnoxious or temperamental person who finds it difficult to work under direction or as part of a team but whose contributions are essential to the success of a team.[5][6][/b]
I can not think of one prima donna who contributes to this board.. if anybody disagrees, please state who is the prima donna)s here..

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