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A rational argument on gun control?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:50 pm
by J-HALEY

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:06 pm
by PaperDog
Jeff , at the end of the day, its not even about the guns...Its really about the govt taking away critical rights.... and to abate technical leverage in the hands of civilians..

Like I said before, It really doesn't matter what the law says I am allowed to do... I'll do what I need to, despite the law, to protect myself and family. If I have to go to prison for bustin a cap in the skull of the pedifiel that tried to violate my daughter...Then I'll go to prison, and I'll proudly boast that one less asshole is walking the earth.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:49 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
The gun thing is a smokescreen. The agenda is the end of the USA as a free nation that can stand against Russia, China, and the Islamic hordes.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:31 pm
by Mike Nobody
Bill Maher On Gun Rights vs. Privacy:
Second Amendment Isn't under Attack, Everything else is

http://youtu.be/1QxpK-mrC1E

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:20 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Bill Mahr is a vulgar idiot. He is a comedian who makes a living on shock. Nothing he says is newsworthy, nor dependable fact. THIS is why the left is so screwed up. You can't tell the difference between propganda and truth.

I keep up with the news, the truth, the facts. It's not easy but someone has to do it. Every single day since Jan 2008 has brought news that will destroy America. It's only a matter of time now before you find out how stupid you have been to support the people who will end your right to be a fool.



Here is the news only for today....



http://www.examiner.com/article/is-martial-law-imminent

A somewhat disturbing ad recently appeared on internet employment sites, the ad in question was placed by the National Guard. Apparently, the Guard is now looking for people to work at internment camps. Here is the ad as it appeared: "As an Internment/Resettlement Specialist for the Army National Guard, you will ensure the smooth running of military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility, similar to those duties conducted by civilian Corrections Officers. This will require you to know proper procedures and military law; and have the ability to think quickly in high-stress situations. Specific duties may include assisting with supervision and management operations; providing facility security; providing custody, control, supervision, and escort; and counseling individual prisoners in rehabilitative programs.”

So, why is the National Guard hiring “Internment / Resettlement Specialists?”






On the face of it that might seem like a prudent act of preparation; but then this also appears today -




http://www.examiner.com/article/shock-c ... s-citizens

On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian (how can he be wrong?) Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.


So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Understand, this is not coming from Alex Jones or Jesse Ventura, or from anyone else the left often dismisses with great ease.

Garrow is a well-respected activist and has spent much of his life rescuing infant girls from China, babies who would be killed under that country's one-child policy. He was also nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for his work.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:31 pm
by jimmydanger
“The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Notice how this mystery man is never identified?

The smell of cow excrement fills the air.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:44 pm
by Planetguy
yod wrote:THIS is why the left is so screwed up. You can't tell the difference between propganda and truth.


irony and hypocrisy alert!!! warning will robinson! warning will robinson!

yod wrote: Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.


So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”


see yod, it's precisely sh*t like this that just makes you look like a myopic laughingstock.

in one breath you paint all on the left as gullible fools ready to swallow any nonsense.....and then you further this laughable swill as newsworthy and factual evidence of the latest evil being perpetrated by obama.

pathetic (but still laughable). thanks for providing a good chuckle.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:47 pm
by Mike Nobody
yod wrote:Bill Mahr is a vulgar idiot. He is a comedian who makes a living on shock. Nothing he says is newsworthy, nor dependable fact.


So, then, you're just fine with Obama taking every other right away from us?
As long as you've got your gun, you don't care?
Talk about myopic!

I don't like Obama either.
But, I don't like him for things he actually does...not for what he MIGHT do.
Obama's second term is more like Bush's fourth.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:01 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Again....nothing but ridicule.


You guys don't have single fact on your side so you resort to ridicule like der fuhrer has taught you to do.

Jimmy smells bull-excrement, yet won't spend a micro-second investigating whether there is any truth to what a Nobel-winning humanist testifies.

NONE of you have done any investigating to find out what the truth is, but it doesn't stop you from ridiculing those who have and are trying to warn you.


That smell is permeating America, especially in liberal land.



So, then, you're just fine with Obama taking every other right away from us?
As long as you've got your gun, you don't care?
Talk about myopic!


That's just stupid. I said nothing near that.

But the 2nd Amendment is all that guarantees the rest of your rights. Better wake up.




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:27 pm
by PaperDog
yod wrote:Bill Mahr is a vulgar idiot. He is a comedian who makes a living on shock. Nothing he says is newsworthy, nor dependable fact. THIS is why the left is so screwed up. You can't tell the difference between propganda and truth.

I keep up with the news, the truth, the facts. It's not easy but someone has to do it. Every single day since Jan 2008 has brought news that will destroy America. It's only a matter of time now before you find out how stupid you have been to support the people who will end your right to be a fool.


You are too kind to Maher. Frankly, he reminds me of one of those spoiled Katz & Jammer kids, who just needs to have his useless ass tossed into a sewer pipe.

I say useless...Because he absolutely has nothing to offer. I cant understan how the FK he got a TV spot. He looks like a marionette puppet for the Esther's Follies Gay parade... (and even they prolly cant stand his spineless ass... )

He leaves a 'stink' on anything he touches in social commentary... Every Chick I ever talked to who knows about Maher, says he's slimey and repulsive... I guess the networkneeded someone as a whipping post, but the public was too stupid to realize he was it, handed over on a platter...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:28 pm
by Planetguy
yod wrote:Jimmy smells bull-excrement, yet won't spend a micro-second investigating whether there is any truth to what a Nobel-winning humanist testifies.


well, i guess if someone has a nobel prize on their mantleplace they're worthy of respect and should be taken seriously?

WARNING WILL ROBINSON! WARNING WILL ROBINSON! HYPOCRISY/IRONY ALERT!!!! WARNING WILL ROBINSON! WARNING WILL ROBINSON!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:43 pm
by MikeTalbot
MikeN

Why is guns the critical issue? I should think that would be obvious. If you don't have a gun you can't talk back - you're a bitch a that point.

I wrote about this a couple years ago:

GUNMAN'S BITCH
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Asorta-minor7 with sleaze
Make all that money, stock up on coins.
Buy a house and a car, to get where you're going.
D
Don't get too stuck on it, because it's all bait and switch.
Asorta-minor7 with sleaze
You don't really own nuthin' when you're the Gunman's bitch
Transition
E D
Under the sun...
A
The future belongs to the gun!

CHORUS
B
If they got the guns, and you got nuthin'
A
When they say "jump" then you had better start jumpin'
B
You talk back to them, without a gun in your hand -

F#min7
You'll find yourself lying face down in a ditch...
C#min7
Life is short when you're the Gunman's Bitch!
Transition
E D
Under the sun...
A
The future belongs to the gun!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:55 pm
by Mike Nobody
MikeTalbot wrote:MikeN

Why is guns the critical issue? I should think that would be obvious. If you don't have a gun you can't talk back - you're a bitch a that point.

I wrote about this a couple years ago:

GUNMAN'S BITCH
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Asorta-minor7 with sleaze
Make all that money, stock up on coins.
Buy a house and a car, to get where you're going.
D
Don't get too stuck on it, because it's all bait and switch.
Asorta-minor7 with sleaze
You don't really own nuthin' when you're the Gunman's bitch
Transition
E D
Under the sun...
A
The future belongs to the gun!

CHORUS
B
If they got the guns, and you got nuthin'
A
When they say "jump" then you had better start jumpin'
B
You talk back to them, without a gun in your hand -

F#min7
You'll find yourself lying face down in a ditch...
C#min7
Life is short when you're the Gunman's Bitch!
Transition
E D
Under the sun...
A
The future belongs to the gun!


If you had watched the Bill Maher video, you'd see a more important series of events taking place.
Keep your guns.
Stick 'em up your ass.
That is about as useful they are when all the laws are rewritten into a fascist police state.
Hitler didn't come after EVERYONE'S guns, just the Jews' guns.
Of course that didn't help either.
But, the legal system enabled everything that happened and the country was STILL f*cked.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:03 am
by DainNobody
yod wrote:Bill Mahr is a vulgar idiot. He is a comedian who makes a living on shock. Nothing he says is newsworthy, nor dependable fact. THIS is why the left is so screwed up. You can't tell the difference between propganda and truth.

I keep up with the news, the truth, the facts. It's not easy but someone has to do it. Every single day since Jan 2008 has brought news that will destroy America. It's only a matter of time now before you find out how stupid you have been to support the people who will end your right to be a fool.



Here is the news only for today....



http://www.examiner.com/article/is-martial-law-imminent

A somewhat disturbing ad recently appeared on internet employment sites, the ad in question was placed by the National Guard. Apparently, the Guard is now looking for people to work at internment camps. Here is the ad as it appeared: "As an Internment/Resettlement Specialist for the Army National Guard, you will ensure the smooth running of military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility, similar to those duties conducted by civilian Corrections Officers. This will require you to know proper procedures and military law; and have the ability to think quickly in high-stress situations. Specific duties may include assisting with supervision and management operations; providing facility security; providing custody, control, supervision, and escort; and counseling individual prisoners in rehabilitative programs.”

So, why is the National Guard hiring “Internment / Resettlement Specialists?”






On the face of it that might seem like a prudent act of preparation; but then this also appears today -




http://www.examiner.com/article/shock-c ... s-citizens

On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian (how can he be wrong?) Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:

I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.


So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

Understand, this is not coming from Alex Jones or Jesse Ventura, or from anyone else the left often dismisses with great ease.

Garrow is a well-respected activist and has spent much of his life rescuing infant girls from China, babies who would be killed under that country's one-child policy. He was also nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for his work.
don't take this personally yod, but you are givinf Christianity a bad appearance/image making derogatory comments to MikeKnowbody

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:11 am
by Mike Nobody
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:don't take this personally yod, but you are givinf Christianity a bad appearance/image making derogatory comments to MikeKnowbody


While I believe that right-wing politics and Christianity often go hand-in-hand.
He's not really making things any worse for Christianity than it already does for itself.
But, he is showing the typical colors of a right-winger.