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I think I have heard the term or saying"A Starving Artist" thrown around before.. not quite sure what to make of the saying as to what is it's revelance to a TRUE ARTIST and not just some poser faking the life of a TRUE ARTIST..

I think the term was always a reference to the people who devoted career to art, but never got that big break, and therefore aren't able to earn an actual living doing it, but continue to try in hopes that the day will come.

Just a guess.

If one is doing what he loves, what he is called to do in life.

Is one truly ever "starving" ?

If one's concern is art . . . and not from whence his next scrap of sustenance will come, or where one might seek shelter.

Then we know nothing of starvation.

or the "barriers to entry" were too great to get a foot in the door, .. but most probably the reason is family connections getting you the break you need to hit the big time, from art to show business, and everything in between, even having a propane business in Tennessee with the ex-governor as your badge to success....

Starving Artist: Someone, who can't generate enough of a meaningful social and cultural impact with their gouramis or other knick-knack artifacts, to demand a steady revenue stream from it.

spoken like a true neo-con... 1/2 truths are more dangerous than outright full blown lies.. 1/2 truths only sucker in the few without all their scruples

I guess I could pass the time cramming donuts down my pie-hole? yes?

PaperDog wrote:Starving Artist: Someone, who can't generate enough of a meaningful social and cultural impact with their gouramis or other knick-knack artifacts, to demand a steady revenue stream from it.

I should qualify this:

Restated:

Starving Artist: Someone, who can't generate enough of a meaningful social and cultural impact with their gouramis or other knick-knack artifacts, to demand a steady revenue stream from it.

A starving artist was at one time a quite literal term. People would move to someplace like Paris, get a cheap flat, an easel and some canvas and try to sell paintings. Unfortunately, many people are only interested in your art after you have passed away, so many went hungry. These days the term might apply to kids living out of vans eating Ramen noodles.

are you saying some of us here are not up to the social and cultural standards that you have achieved? and just what is this cultural and social standard we need to strive for? how high is that standard? please inform the great unwashed..

I wouldnt say that all starving artist are actually artist at all. Some of them plain suck at what they do. Or at least at my elevated level they do!

sounds like Hitler hating modern art, it was not classical art so it sucked.. or you could reverse that.. maybe not punk enough to be art?.. if it's too complex and can't be copied by a hack then it sucks I suppose..

Dane Ellis Allen wrote:are you saying some of us here are not up to the social and cultural standards that you have achieved? and just what is this cultural and social standard we need to strive for? how high is that standard? please inform the great unwashed..

LOL Dane you crackin me up...

The answer is very simple: Produce art that meets social and cultural standards. How High? As high as you can possibly push it... when you get there, push it even higher...Rinse and repeat...

I just think some people use the term or the idea in order not to have to keep and hold a real job. They are starving cause they refuse to take resposibility for thier own well being, think someone should take care of them for some reason.

I have bought some very nice pictures at some of those starving artist sales

Christ O' Mighty, this board is only used by most to provoke people, I really don't understand the purpose of it..