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#202478 by fisherman bob
Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:09 am
I'm tired of the anxiety attacks. Got some clonazepan today. I hate the idea of prescription drugs, but fits of rage and anxiety attacks have to stop. I'm a hard man to deal with these days.
#202480 by Mike Nobody
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:29 am
fisherman bob wrote:I'm tired of the anxiety attacks. Got some clonazepan today. I hate the idea of prescription drugs, but fits of rage and anxiety attacks have to stop. I'm a hard man to deal with these days.


Yes.

#202482 by gtZip
Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:47 am
Lexapro.
It will even you out.

However, you may not be able to express any emotion but anger after you even out.

I must warn you that 'you will' become dependent on benzodiazepines. Avoid Xanax at all costs.

#202488 by fisherman bob
Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:32 am
I understand the dependency risk. The alternative is scaring everybody around me, including me. Sometimes you have to separate yourself from yourself, if you know what I mean. Today I went to a supermarket and had to get out. You can't function in life normally like that. All the pressures I have faced in my life are building to a head. Something had to give. An experienced internal medicne doctor about four months ago prescribed it to me. I took a few pills but felt like a zombie, so I quit. Plus I have this aversion to such meds. I saw the horrors my brother went through in his brief lifetime on various psychiatric meds, so I said "not me." My mother has taken an anxiety pill (lorazepan) for almost 20 years with great success. So I have to admit that maybe, just maybe it might be a genetic thing. It (mental problems) runs in our family. While my physical problems have gotten much better on my allergy diet, chiropractic visits, and allergy injections, my mental state has gotten worse. So I have added the anxiety pill to my "team." I had no choice....

#202490 by gtZip
Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:04 am
I know you can't function like that.

I've had depression, rage, anxiety - Anxiety is by far the worst of them in my book. If it's a bad attack, it's totally debilitating.

The longer lasting variety of benzodiazepines are best, if you can get by with them. Klonopin, which you have, or maybe Valium.

Xanax is king at squashing an attack, BUT, once you get dependent and you miss a day, or you run out, it causes the panic that you were trying to get away from in the first place. It's got a short 'shelf life' - acts fast, but drops out of the blood fast.

Public Service Anouncement for all of you guys:
Don't take these drugs lightly.
It's one of the two 'drugs' that can kill your ass from withdrawals. Benzos, and alcohol.
#202492 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:27 pm
fisherman bob wrote:I'm tired of the anxiety attacks. Got some clonazepan today. I hate the idea of prescription drugs, but fits of rage and anxiety attacks have to stop. I'm a hard man to deal with these days.


Bob, that's not good at all. One of the great musicians on B/M and you are telling us this. I feel real bad, about this. I don't have any immediate answers.

This may or may not help,,,,
I'm getting older too. All I deal with day after day is problems. Urgent, immediate heating system problems. Many times it is avoidable stupidity. It doesn't matter. I am accountable to way to many customers, and I very little room for margin of error. I don't just get up go to work and come home and "thats all folks".

Any way just a stupid suggestion, the way I deal with the pressures of my "JOB" is to hit the weights. Sounds dumb,, But it keeps me in a condition that allows me to cope,,, low blood pressure,, clarity and focus,, and if I eat properly I can stay out dealing with one problem after another as long as needed.

I hope you find an answer because what you are describing, really is awful. Respect and best wishes Bob.

#202505 by PaperDog
Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:18 pm
fisherman bob wrote:I understand the dependency risk. The alternative is scaring everybody around me, including me. Sometimes you have to separate yourself from yourself, if you know what I mean. Today I went to a supermarket and had to get out. You can't function in life normally like that. All the pressures I have faced in my life are building to a head. Something had to give. An experienced internal medicne doctor about four months ago prescribed it to me. I took a few pills but felt like a zombie, so I quit. Plus I have this aversion to such meds. I saw the horrors my brother went through in his brief lifetime on various psychiatric meds, so I said "not me." My mother has taken an anxiety pill (lorazepan) for almost 20 years with great success. So I have to admit that maybe, just maybe it might be a genetic thing. It (mental problems) runs in our family. While my physical problems have gotten much better on my allergy diet, chiropractic visits, and allergy injections, my mental state has gotten worse. So I have added the anxiety pill to my "team." I had no choice....


I dont suppose the Fkd up affairs of our nation would have anything to do with it , would it...? We've become so politically correct and socially deflated, demoralized and horsewhipped....Naturally the shrinks are gonna tell us all about anxiety and such. Ya know, Bob, maybe the anxiety you feel has a real basis, and needs a real solution. Maybe the anger is a legitiamaet, natural reaction to things going really wrong around us. Maybe a solid ass-whipping of some jerk-off asshole at the supermarket would remedy it...Maybe not...
But often, the pills only manage to 'defer' what the real problems are... IMHO

#202508 by jimmydanger
Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:52 pm
So your advice to Bob is to go beat up someone at the supermarket? Really? So that he can get arrested, sued and have twice as much stress as before? I can tell you're from Texass.

#202514 by fisherman bob
Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:03 pm
jimmydanger wrote:So your advice to Bob is to go beat up someone at the supermarket? Really? So that he can get arrested, sued and have twice as much stress as before? I can tell you're from Texass.
. Violence, of course, is no solution to anything. Glen has a much better solution, take your angst out on an inanimate object while helping your body at the same time. I took another dose this morning and went into Dick's Sporting Goods, a much better response. While zombified to a degree. Had no panic attack. My family has a history of debilitating mental problems. I'm sure genetics plays a factor. If a very experienced internist writes up a prescription for Clonazeppan, there's probably a chance it'll help me, and the possibility for help is worth the risk of side effects. I'm still taking the supplements, I'm still getting allergy injections, and I'm still seeking advice from a naturopath and chiropractor. I consider all these diverse practitioners part of a team. I'm NOT a doctor and I'm not going to self-diagnose myself. All the "knowledge" on the internet is really hearsay as every person is different. What works for one person will not necessarily work on another. It's best to let the experts guide you....Their advice is based on empirical evidence, and little on guesswork.

#202516 by gtZip
Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:15 pm
If I find something healthy that works for anxiety attacks, I'll let you know.
I wish. I hope.

Other than that, I live it and have lived it, and have lived around benzo users, so I speak from experience.

#202528 by PaperDog
Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:04 pm
jimmydanger wrote:So your advice to Bob is to go beat up someone at the supermarket? Really? So that he can get arrested, sued and have twice as much stress as before? I can tell you're from Texass.



Jimmy, did you catch that part where I said 'maybe not'? I guess you were so caught up in the need to 'be right' that you missed that part of my dialog.
:D DO you feel better? Seems to me that's how you cope with your stress. I'm suggesting that Maybe Guys like Bob are victoms of bullies like you...So I'm saying that 'maybe' one form or coping is to quell the bully, for a change.
I once cold-cocked a bully in a bar...It felt exceedingly good. After that, the bully went away. Stress Problem was solved. No Pills, No Doctors, No Lawyers...

#202539 by gbheil
Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 pm
I hope it gets better Bob.


But my advice as a man, and an RN is just say no.

#202552 by fisherman bob
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:06 am
sanshouheil wrote:I hope it gets better Bob.


But my advice as a man, and an RN is just say no.
. I wish it were that easy, to just say no. But when I start having panic attacks every other day, it's time to say yes, unfortunately. And by the way, I've never had a problem with bullies.

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