General Music Chat

Acording to government statistics, conservatively given by the government, the fraud and waste in government in 2010 was 5%.

That comes to 125 billion

as with the method of measuring everything in 10 year periods now days by government (I believe they do that to create confusion so we don't know how really bad they are screwing us) that would be:


1.2 trillion dollars in waste.

. And the new higher taxes "on the rich" aren't even half of that.

So if this was about taxes, which it isn't, then why don't they do something about the fraud and "raise" twice the money? Then those fat lazy sludge sucking maggot ridden bastards could give back what they are stealing from honest hard working Americans. And they could still enjoy their $100 a lb steak dinners, cruise all over the world in luxury, fly all over the world and rent whole luxury hotels for their friends who come along for the ride, and sometimes even go on vacation for two weeks for 7 million dollars and still not have to pay a F&&%in cent of it ever.

To a globalist we in North America are the rich.

Socialist lies are the same old tired sh*t that never fails to find fools to be followers.

I always think of Robin Hood robbing from the rich to feed the poor as a lesson on how the rich think about people born without silver spoons in their mouths.. Slacker you have even made reference that you were "lucky" enough to be born into your repair business since you were tutored or indentured into that business from a relative of yours.. when are you going to come to grips people are not as fortunate as being "born into something"..there are even people such as myself that do not have the intellect to even get to an advanced stage of earning power..so please show some compassion on those less fortunate than you and not born gifted..

I always think of Robin Hood robbing from the rich to feed the poor as a lesson on how the rich think about people born without silver spoons in their mouths.. Slacker you have even made reference that you were "lucky" enough to be born into your repair business since you were tutored or indentured into that business from a relative of yours.. when are you going to come to grips people are not as fortunate as being "born into something"..there are even people such as myself that do not have the intellect to even get to an advanced stage of earning power..so please show some compassion on those less fortunate than you and not born gifted..

Are you kidding me? I want what you are on.

NEVER have I said or even implied that I inherited anything. I left home and was on my own when I reached the age of 17. I taught myself, I started a business by myself with not one cent of assistance. When my father died he cut me out of his will so I received nothing from him. No one lent me money for my business, I earned it and then invested it into my business. I made my business grow by being the best at it in the area. I hustled for my customers by charging low rates for the best labor they could hire at any price. I went without in order to maintain what I worked hard to build. When the music scene took a dive because of the stringent drunk driving laws I became proficient in repairing DJ equipment. When that was slow I invented FX for guitars that musicians found to be quieter and more versatile than what they could purchase from a music store. I learned to customize guitars so well that customers thought nothing of traveling a few hundred miles to see that it was done right. I studied parts manuals on IC.s and learned their functions, thereby being able to design what I wanted around them. I spent literally thousands of hours with my nose in data books in order to understand IC function so I could adapt them to my personal applications. So exactly where did you come up with this crap? Because I worked in my uncles Repair shop while I was 8 years old? And he didn't teach me, he let me learn on my own, and he didn't contribute otherwise to my profession which was incidentally far removed from his field of repair. Her was a radio / TV repairman.

Where did you come up with that preposterous idea? So get your silver spoon out of my aS$.

good thoughts Dane,

I'd like to add that there are others who simply by reason of 'bad luck' fall into circumstances that they cannot ever climb out of.

Being the father of a special needs child has taught me bitter lessons about shouldering skyrocketed costs and having to give up on an advanced career, or even being flexible. I'm fortunate that I've found a job that is compassionate and flexible enough for me to attend those needs, but my last job? Fired for it. Most jobs wouldn't give 10% of that flexibility. I speak with other parents through support groups that have similar stories.. this is just in the arena of disabled children..

The price I pay is that I'm severely underpaid (small business, goes with the territory), but I can NEVER again work in a corporation and achieve a higher pay because I cannot do something as simple as be there every day 9-5, without having to frequently leave for "emergencies" that prop up more often than you could imagine.

Sure I could pull myself up by my bootstraps and open my own business.. IF my life, finances/credit, etc. weren't already a shambles.. I am destined to live check-to-check for the rest of my life and there's no hope for betterment, other than the powerball. Oh wait.. can't afford that either.

There are so many other circumstances that affect the less fortunate and offer no hope. This is my argument alone as to why crime is such a problem and why people also snap and go on shooting sprees.

Good thoughts Dane?

Man is your thinky thing ever screwed up. You learned well from the school of illogical thought and Utopian dreams.

I always think of Robin Hood robbing from the rich to feed the poor as a lesson on how the rich think about people born without silver spoons in their mouths.. Slacker you have even made reference that you were "lucky" enough to be born into your repair business since you were tutored or indentured into that business from a relative of yours.. when are you going to come to grips people are not as fortunate as being "born into something"..there are even people such as myself that do not have the intellect to even get to an advanced stage of earning power..so please show some compassion on those less fortunate than you and not born gifted..

Are you kidding me? I want what you are on.

NEVER have I said or even implied that I inherited anything. I left home and was on my own when I reached the age of 17. I taught myself, I started a business by myself with not one cent of assistance. When my father died he cut me out of his will so I received nothing from him. No one lent me money for my business, I earned it and then invested it into my business. I made my business grow by being the best at it in the area. I hustled for my customers by charging low rates for the best labor they could hire at any price. I went without in order to maintain what I worked hard to build. When the music scene took a dive because of the stringent drunk driving laws I became proficient in repairing DJ equipment. When that was slow I invented FX for guitars that musicians found to be quieter and more versatile than what they could purchase from a music store. I learned to customize guitars so well that customers thought nothing of traveling a few hundred miles to see that it was done right. I studied parts manuals on IC.s and learned their functions, thereby being able to design what I wanted around them. I spent literally thousands of hours with my nose in data books in order to understand IC function so I could adapt them to my personal applications. So exactly where did you come up with this crap? Because I worked in my uncles Repair shop while I was 8 years old? And he didn't teach me, he let me learn on my own, and he didn't contribute otherwise to my profession which was incidentally far removed from his field of repair. Her was a radio / TV repairman.

Where did you come up with that preposterous idea? So get your silver spoon out of my aS$.

I could have sworn you said you apprenticed under the tutelage of your uncle in an electronics repair business?.. please accept my apologies if I did not recollect a post of yours in the past.. last thing I want to do is lose my integrity here on this board since I am appreciated so much a and just so you know, Robin Hood was considered a hero then and a hero today..

good thoughts Dane,

I'd like to add that there are others who simply by reason of 'bad luck' fall into circumstances that they cannot ever climb out of.

Being the father of a special needs child has taught me bitter lessons about shouldering skyrocketed costs and having to give up on an advanced career, or even being flexible. I'm fortunate that I've found a job that is compassionate and flexible enough for me to attend those needs, but my last job? Fired for it. Most jobs wouldn't give 10% of that flexibility. I speak with other parents through support groups that have similar stories.. this is just in the arena of disabled children..

The price I pay is that I'm severely underpaid (small business, goes with the territory), but I can NEVER again work in a corporation and achieve a higher pay because I cannot do something as simple as be there every day 9-5, without having to frequently leave for "emergencies" that prop up more often than you could imagine.

Sure I could pull myself up by my bootstraps and open my own business.. IF my life, finances/credit, etc. weren't already a shambles.. I am destined to live check-to-check for the rest of my life and there's no hope for betterment, other than the powerball. Oh wait.. can't afford that either.

There are so many other circumstances that affect the less fortunate and offer no hope. This is my argument alone as to why crime is such a problem and why people also snap and go on shooting sprees.

Hey Kramer,

Maybe the righties on here don't take your arguments seriously because of where you live.
It sounds like Pottersville from It's a Wonderful Life or Pottsylvania from Rocky & Bullwinkle.

"Keel moose and squirrel!"

I will bet a dollar to a hole in a donut that some right winger will come on here and say Robin Hood is a myth or legend, and that the rich in that time of history did not mistreat the poor.. (cause they could) same as in today's world, little poor people have no "voice" cause of Slacker's golden rule philosophy.. he who has the gold sets the rules to increase their ill-gotten gains with unfair practices made into law to further advantage the rich against the poor..

I will bet a dollar to a hole in a donut that some right winger will come on here and say Robin Hood is a myth or legend, and that the rich in that time of history did not mistreat the poor.. (cause they could) same as in today's world, little poor people have no "voice" cause of Slacker's golden rule philosophy.. he who has the gold sets the rules to increase their ill-gotten gains with unfair practices made into law to further advantage the rich against the poor..

In your little fantasy world Robinhood lived 100's of years ago. In todays civilization the people are supposed to have a voice. In capitolism you work your tail off make sacrifices and you are rewarded PERIOD! Now let me get this straight Dane, you set on your butt and sell things on ebay I'm guessing that doesn't pay much? Then you SPEW your communist views and hatred of folks that do get off their ass and make things happen. Since they are successful they are the bad guys in your eye's? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I was beginning to think you are a good guy instead I now believe you are full of SH!T! Sorry but thats the way I see it through "my eye's"!

In capitolism you work your tail off make sacrifices and you are rewarded PERIOD!

Maybe in YOUR fantasy world!
Most of us bust our asses and sacrifice just to stay afloat and not sink any further, PERIOD!
Many more work their tail off and make sacrifices to find themselves SUNK, regardless.

Dane,

Here are a couple of other points. My uncle did not teach me electronics> When I got an Xtal set for my birthday I became obsessed with it and wanted to understand how it worked. I messed around with stuff at home before I even ASKED my uncle if I could try to repair stuff in his shop. He did not teach me as he knew that I would have more experience figuring things out for myself. So you can scratch the I fell into an electronic education along with the other.

Now explain this to me. Do you own or ever hope to own a house a car or anything on your own? If you were like the majority of us, you had to find a job to pay for it. Now that is excluding those who sit around and get a check for nothing they ever earned.

So if you wish to work hard and earn a living get ahead and leave something to your children, did that just fall out of the sky?

So the people that have money because they inherited it, was it always in the family? Did it magically fall out of the sky and end up in a great uncles lap or some story like that? Or did someone in the family have to earn it somehow, by hook or crook it does not matter. Look at the Kennedy's. From where did their money come? Walt Disney's grandchildren. Did the money just fall out of the sky and end up in Walts pockets?

I would hop that you could get the drift without my pursuing this train of thought further. People don't want the hardships that go along with gaining wealth today. In my opinion this is a gimmie gimmie gimmie steal from their brother and take it for themselves frame of mind generation.

And not even that!!

These whining mooches do not even have the guts to go and steal the money for themselves, they want the government to do that for them.

Dane, if you and those like you would get of your asses and go to work and quit pissing over what someone else has, because they paid the price for it, and earn your own way, perhaps prosperity would be yours without you desiring to steal what your brother has earned by his hard work.

http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post ... 69ffee6ca8
$43 Million to owners of racetracks.
Slacker is right we gotta stop the spending madness
Can you believe the waste ???????

"loophole will cost taxpayers $46 million this year and another $95 million through 2017."

International Speedway Corp alone has spent more than $1.1 million lobbying Congress since 2008, according to lobbying disclosure forms. NASCAR spent more than $300,000 during that span on lobbying efforts, which included a push to "make permanent the depreciation classification."
((((( tax breaks for corp's ))))))))

In capitolism you work your tail off make sacrifices and you are rewarded PERIOD!

Maybe in YOUR fantasy world!
Most of us bust our asses and sacrifice just to stay afloat and not sink any further, PERIOD!
Many more work their tail off and make sacrifices to find themselves SUNK, regardless.

BULLSHIT! I am sorry about your circumstances too Mike! You appear to me to be MISERABLE, you have told us about your physical problems and mental problems! I can't imagine walking a day in your shoes either brother. I am starting to notice a pattern here on this site! The folks in the worst situations are BITTER ANGRY and HATE folks that have attained success. Ya'll blame other folks for your misfortunes. Please understand I don't mean to sound calloused because believe me I do sympathize! I use to feel the same way as you! Now I say you live in the greatest country in the world. There is opportunity EVERYWHERE! You just have to make the best of the hand you have been dealt!

see, that's more of the same the myopic thinking and ballyhooing from the compassionless righties who got their's so screw everyone else.

but guess what....everyone who feels the rich and super rich should pay a higher rate does not hate them, isn't jealous of them, and doesn't resent them.

i don't...i just think they need to pay their fair share. plain and simple.

slacker (and others)..if you think it's a level playing field and EVERYONE has the SAME opportunities... then you're at least as ignorant as you constantly paint all democrats as being.