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I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

Help your neighbor up is my philosophy

Deadguitars wrote:Help your neighbor up is my philosophy

A good one indeed. With sound biblical principle.
But not the function of the Federal Government IMO.

sanshouheil wrote:

Deadguitars wrote:Help your neighbor up is my philosophy

A good one indeed. With sound biblical principle.
But not the function of the Federal Government IMO.

Govt is a 4 letter word I guess

When the gov assists anyone most of the taxpayer monies mysteriously disappear and end up in the hands of their political cronies.

Slacker G wrote:When the gov assists anyone most of the taxpayer monies mysteriously disappear and end up in the hands of their political cronies.

Exactly! They (congress) spend 20% on cause and pocket the other 80%. Boehner knows this. Congress is the biggest cancer on America...Were talking stage 10!!

Even in private sector "relief" "aid" what have you the probability of corruption & malfeasance is very high.

I think my point was more that the "feds" every action should benefit each and every citizen equally.
Or it should be left to the State, County, Local governments and or private sector.

If a federal action is not universally beneficial it is outside their constitutional role.

sanshouheil wrote:I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

So, we should shut down FEMA and the Army Core of Engineers?

Kramerguy wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

So, we should shut down FEMA and the Army Core of Engineers?

I think if you really contemplate that question you will realize that those agencies are designed to be supportive of universal needs.
Not a specific economic response directed at a small group of individuals.
Your not an idiot , your capable of discerning the difference.

I wish they would get rid of Boehner the boner. He's a left wing self aggrandizing demagogy that should be running as a Demoncrap. Actually running him out of office would be a true blessing for all conservatives.

Kramerguy wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

So, we should shut down FEMA and the Army Core of Engineers?

Yes. Shut down FEMA.

sanshouheil wrote:

Kramerguy wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

So, we should shut down FEMA and the Army Core of Engineers?

I think if you really contemplate that question you will realize that those agencies are designed to be supportive of universal needs.
Not a specific economic response directed at a small group of individuals.
Your not an idiot , your capable of discerning the difference.

I'm honestly trying to discern the logic and understand your sentiments

So, in trying to figure that out, let me ask- Wouldn't a local small-town fire department fall under that description of "response directed at a small group of individuals"?

How would hurricane relief be any different than putting out the flames engulfing an individual home, or even an 8-unit apartment building?

Outside the cost and scale, the two are the same, are they not?

I think what George means - and please correct me if I'm wrong - is that we shouldn't be using borrowed money to pay for disaster relief if only a portion of the country is affected.

So... A house cat and a tiger are the same, except for the scale. Right?

Anything of Federal scope is wasteful because they don't know what's going on - much the same as CEOs and high level management having no visibility and no clue as to how their workforce operates.

The tighter the scope, the better.