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#191286 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:17 pm
As details are coming forth, it is become more clear to me that what happened in Libya was a botched kidnapping.

Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood leader who was installed in Eygpt with Obama's help wanted the Blind Sheik to be released

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/internatio ... IJKJLpTQNL



Obama knows the America people would never accept him being let go, so they hatched a plan to kidnap our Ambassador and do a trade as an "October surprise" that let the Sheik go and made O look like a hero for securing Ambassador Steven's release.

This is why no military help was allowed to come (though there were warships in the area who could have), and it's why the Navy seals on the scene were told to "stand down". One of those seals were on top of the compound with a laser pointer on the terrorists. With that, a missle could have been launched from hundreds of miles away with perfect accuracy. NO TROOPS would have been necessary, so there is absolutely no good excuse for that not to have been done.

A couple of Navy Seals disobeyed the stand down order and interrupted the kidnapping, resulting in the death of the Ambassador during the fight.


This is what O is hiding. Hillary would certainly be in on it, too.

#191288 by Starfish Scott
Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:20 pm
Oops smells like a "political pants shitting".

lol

#191295 by PaperDog
Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:10 pm
That US SEAL disobeyed a lawful order. In doing so, he put lives in jeopardy, including his own life. I don't see him as a hero. I see him as a hot-dogger, who got carried away with his own role and status. I am sorry it came down to his death, but his own death (as well as the death of others) was unnecessary, and it was preventable.

By ignoring his orders, He acted in violation of UCMJ (Uniform Code Of Military Justice) Articles 90, 92 and 98. Had he survived,he would have been charged accordingly.

Its possible that the SEAL inadvertently sabotaged the superfluous kidnapping (If in fact it was merely an attempted kidnapping)

#191296 by Slacker G
Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:20 pm
I also have a theory. :)

#191305 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:21 pm
Slacker G wrote:I also have a theory. :)


lol
#191306 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:38 pm
yod wrote:As details are coming forth, it is become more clear to me that what happened in Libya was a botched kidnapping.

Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood leader who was installed in Eygpt with Obama's help wanted the Blind Sheik to be released

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/internatio ... IJKJLpTQNL



Obama knows the America people would never accept him being let go, so they hatched a plan to kidnap our Ambassador and do a trade as an "October surprise" that let the Sheik go and made O look like a hero for securing Ambassador Steven's release.

This is why no military help was allowed to come (though there were warships in the area who could have), and it's why the Navy seals on the scene were told to "stand down". One of those seals were on top of the compound with a laser pointer on the terrorists. With that, a missle could have been launched from hundreds of miles away with perfect accuracy. NO TROOPS would have been necessary, so there is absolutely no good excuse for that not to have been done.

A couple of Navy Seals disobeyed the stand down order and interrupted the kidnapping, resulting in the death of the Ambassador during the fight.


This is what O is hiding. Hillary would certainly be in on it, too.


if this is true,
our real problem is hardly being ruled over by the new emperor/Satan/666
I think our real problem is that the whitehouse is populated by some of the most shortsighted foolish retard that ever came into a position of authority,
come on!!
if that was anyone's plan it is so full of holes and stumbling blocks, it wouldn't pass muster at a cub scout meeting much less the loftiest power center on the planet
it certainly proves that the whitehouse couldn't organize a yrad sale much less a kidnapping.

come on................
you need a break from all this,
It's not good to see things like this.

#191309 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:09 pm
Yod reading the stuff you write always puts in mind of this

http://youtu.be/sPq_914s2Jw

#191318 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:03 pm
You know JC the biggest problem I have with you is that one minute you write about the truth, and the next minute you are attacking the very same things from the other direction.

WAD UP????

#191319 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:09 pm
you gotta stop looking at life a set of polar opposites
there are very few things in life that simple.

I know obama and the party he represents is European style socialism.
but to invest in these people all sorts of strange powers that they could not possibley have is a complete waste of time and energy.
when you take people you never met and make them mental cartoons you start with a fiction, if you start with a fiction you will never end with a truth.

#191321 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:22 pm
JCP61 wrote: to invest in these people all sorts of strange powers that they could not possibley have is a complete waste of time and energy.
when you take people you never met and make them mental cartoons you start with a fiction, if you start with a fiction you will never end with a truth.



It is fact that Morsi wanted the blind sheik released, and it is fact that Obama/Hillary wanted to do that.

It is fact that the Muslim Brotherhood was behind the attack, and it is fact that security at the residence had been downgraded many times while an upgrade was requested several times.

It is fact that the CIA compound in charge of protecting the Ambassador requested help 3 times and got nothing but an "ignore" from the State Dept.

It is fact that the Navy Seal had a laser on the terrorists that would have not required a single soldier to risk life, no matter what the unknown quanity was.

It is fact that this Administration has floated several lies about what happened so far, and has now called for an "investigation" led by Pickering, a known Iran-Eygpt sympathizer. The results, if they ever come out, won't be released until after the election.

It is fact that we have been shown classified video of bin laden's last minutes which put Seal Team 6 in danger (and a helicoper load of them died less than a month later in Afghanistan) yet we're told that the footage of the Libyan situation is "top secret".

I could go on and on and on listing facts that, at the very least, point to incompetence, and if that isn't so, they point to treason.



There are SO many facts concerning this situation that only make sense if the plan all along was to give up the Ambassador.

It is naive to think Obama is telling anyone the truth. A botched kidnapping is the only theory that makes any sense whatsoever.



Unless you have a better theory for why we did NOTHING to protect the Ambassador or build up security when there were so many previous requests?



.

#191322 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:41 pm
very simple
obama wants no more excursions into the middle east
no circumstance that will lead to expanding US presence in a very volatile region
the people of the untied states are weary of being the scape goat of the orient.
not to mention the fact that most people including your self don't want to pay for more troops in the middle east.
so he dose nothing.
figuring that if you do nothing nothing will happen.
that's wrong of course but it's the path they have taken.

you want a righteous clean benevolent empire,
but that is not real, if you want control you must do a lot of killing
if you want to do a lot of killing you have to pay for it
if you pay for it you have to take their stuff once you have killed them.
and the rest must pay tribute.
Obama is just backing away, romney will also back away.
were done, nobody wants this anymore.


there is no use asking if the air is any good if there nothing else to breath.
the real fact is that the middle east is a European problem, as it has been for centuries.
the british installed the jews and europe must protect them or feed them to the wolves.
knowing europe they will feed them to the wolves.
truthfully, none of this is our concern

#191323 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:48 pm
In this one case the truth, still, is an ambassador of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA IS DEAD. THREE MORE AMERICANS on top of that.

It has taken more than 40 days for this to even brought up here.


It has been said Mr Stevens was singled out because he was GAY, a big no no in the middle east.
It has been said that he was a part of a kidnapping plot with extortion to follow in an effort to release the blind terrorist.
It has been said that this was all about a video that DISSED the prophet.
It has even been mentioned that The Big 0 was using the embassy as a way to funnel weapons into al-queda. (as crazy as it may sound, some very smart people include it as a possibility).

The fact, bottom line , is that the big 0 didn't protect Americans in a timely fashion. In fact it was more important to make it to the Jay Leno show and continue his campaign to remain in control. If we were under nuclear attack right now,,, would the resolve be to protect our country or complete a few rounds of golf.

FIRE THE GUY, HE IS A NOT A WONDERFUL PERSON,,, HE IS NOT CAPABLE OF LEADING A PARADE!

#191326 by JCP61
Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:59 pm
GLENNY J wrote:In this one case the truth, still, is an ambassador of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA IS DEAD. THREE MORE AMERICANS on top of that.

It has taken more than 40 days for this to even brought up here.


It has been said Mr Stevens was singled out because he was GAY, a big no no in the middle east.
It has been said that he was a part of a kidnapping plot with extortion to follow in an effort to release the blind terrorist.
It has been said that this was all about a video that DISSED the prophet.
It has even been mentioned that The Big 0 was using the embassy as a way to funnel weapons into al-queda. (as crazy as it may sound, some very smart people include it as a possibility).

The fact, bottom line , is that the big 0 didn't protect Americans in a timely fashion. In fact it was more important to make it to the Jay Leno show and continue his campaign to remain in control. If we were under nuclear attack right now,,, would the resolve be to protect our country or complete a few rounds of golf.

FIRE THE GUY, HE IS A NOT A WONDERFUL PERSON,,, HE IS NOT CAPABLE OF LEADING A PARADE!


all very well and good,

but truthfully, if anyone indicates that for any reason, any reason whatsoever, that they will expand US presence in the middle east he will be rejected by the "sheep" as you call us.

barring the arrival of a REAL dictator
we will not go, not for the jews not for the arabs not for the africans.

so fagetabout it

#191327 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:02 pm
Actually you are not one of the sheep. You just keep changing your view so much it is hard to tell what direction you want to go next.

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