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Jiminy cricket PALEEZE don't bother! Seriously to all my friends please give my new song a listen! Now I have to say I toil in a wood shop all day. The latest technology is NOT my forte'
If you are a dumbass like jimmy and you don't get that everyone is not a TECHNICAL GENIUS and perhaps they might be fairly decent musicians.

I have been writing and recording a new original since last Sat. I have posted a rough mix of it on my player. It is called "The Sun Is Gone" give it a listen if you get a chance critiques are welcome FROM EVERYONE EXCEPT Sheldon Cooper!

Jiminy cricket PALEEZE don't bother! Seriously to all my friends please give my new song a listen! Now I have to say I toil in a wood shop all day. The latest technology is NOT my forte'
If you are a dumbass like jimmy and you don't get that everyone is not a TECHNICAL GENIUS and perhaps they might be fairly decent musicians.

I have been writing and recording a new original since last Sat. I have posted a rough mix of it on my player. It is called "The Sun Is Gone" give it a listen if you get a chance critiques are welcome FROM EVERYONE EXCEPT Sheldon Cooper!

Oh yeah, I REALLY would like to hear Klugmo sing this song!

Sitting here listening now as I contemplate my own recording / mixing difficulties.

Recording drums is a beotch . . .


I'm loving the sounds. Lyrically relevant.
For my part I feel your vocals are a tad ( 1-2 db ) too out front.
My personal preference again of course is to have the drum / cymbal tracks a little more prominent as well.

It's well done Jeff, a little "bright" on my cheap o speaker system.

( apparently one of my boys has absconded with my headphones . . . again )

You did the mullet proud Jeff. I really like the tune. My wife even came in and said "hey what are you listening to." She liked it a lot and she has a very low tolerance for not-quite-ready-for-prime-time music. (ask me how I know)

I hear some Allman Bros in there and maybe some G N R.

What would I do differently? Shoot for a bigger lead guitar sound. I like the OD tone and chorus and love the phrasing and choices but it seems too isolated or understated in the mix. I'm not sure how to fix it other than to play a favorite similar track alongside as a reference and chase that sound.
The acoustic sounds great over everything and yes, Klugmo has the pipes for this one.

You did the mullet proud Jeff. I really like the tune. My wife even came in and said "hey what are you listening to." She liked it a lot and she has a very low tolerance for not-quite-ready-for-prime-time music. (ask me how I know)

I hear some Allman Bros in there and maybe some G N R.

What would I do differently? Shoot for a bigger lead guitar sound. I like the OD tone and chorus and love the phrasing and choices but it seems too isolated or understated in the mix. I'm not sure how to fix it other than to play a favorite similar track alongside as a reference and chase that sound.
The acoustic sounds great over everything and yes, Klugmo has the pipes for this one.

Thank you so much for the listen J7 I always learn so much from you! All the amplification sounds come from the COSM sounds from the unit I am recording from. It is a plug and play kind of thing and is definately obsolete! Basically it is a way for me to play all the parts and get my idea's recorded!

Hey Jeff , two things... and yes, its a great song...If it were me, to fine tune;

1) INTRO: The lead is way too busy at this point of the song. Your tossing out notes like they was skittles... and the thing is, we are privileged to here you go to work on that strat... Don't squander it so early . There are three ways to approach this: Minimize lead in the intro and let the Rythm picking on the other track carry the momentum, OR Pick up the lead, and reduce the picking momentum OR Keep Both and cut the number of bars in half and start in earlier with the verse. IMHO

2) Song Needs a middle to break 'theme monotony'. Maybe after the 2 nd verse section, jump to 'G' (Off the b-flat) and branch off to a subset of chords. It will mean adding more lyric. Use it to build up to the punchline ("The sun is gone...")

Lyrics are forward moving ..and that is exactly as it should be! The middle allows the artist to side- bar the theme issue and throw in enhanced thought, suspense or stage the theme for irony (to name a few)

Good production . I do agree with Sans that the drums need to come out a tad. Love the instrument balance. I heard this on Headphones and it seemed a little bright to me too. . Maybe a touch less reverb?

And Finally.... Where the hell was the Cowbell? I didnt hear any ...

WOW, I think thats a great song!

I like the lead at the intro, maybe a bit long, but that little descending trill you do fight before the vocals made what little hair I have on my neck stand up.

I would kinda like to hear a change in rythym for your lead in the middle, or maybe a little mid 8 to change to the lead.

But overall great song

Thanks Dog and JW! I listened on my computer at work and I hear some things that need fixing for sure. JW thats kinda what I am trying to do with that tele sounding power chord. In the mix I am going to lower it until the lead solo where I'll raise it and bring down the acoustic guitars for the solo. I agree the song needs a bridge. Right now my creative juices are really flowing. I am trying to get my idea's recorded asap. I will come back to that song and add a bridge maybe during Christmas break!

IMO being able to run recordings by so many great musicians and song writers is the greatest asset this site has to offer. I GREATLY appeciate everyones input! I also apologize to you guys about my arguments with a certain liberal on this site. The guy is trying to stop me from using my RIGHT to free speech. He thinks he can silence me to fit his liberal agenda! It will be a COLD DAY IN HELL when any liberal tells me that. I guess Jimmy didn't pay attention to his psychology prof. in college! Anyway I know that gets frustrating for the rest of you and I am sorry you get caught up in it. I WILL NOT BACK DOWN! So grab some popcorn and enjoy the show!

Sounds musically like Motley Crue/Poison.

Actually pretty radio friendly unless I missed something.

My buddy says it sounds a little like SWEET CHILD O MINE.

Pretty cool, Jeff..

very decent,
it's retro alright but well put together, you might edit the lyric a bit, just a tad verbose but no harm done.
I think this is the best you've done yet jeff.
good job.

way cool, jeff.

i agree the vocals need to be more up front....maybe not just more volume but possibly less reverb. i did like the vcl harmony and the gtr playing is happening w some really good ideas, vibrato, and tone... but to my ears it could be pulled down just a little (except the solos of course). points for the nice job on the acoustic rhythm gtr part...it really keeps things moving forward.

Jeff,

Really liked this song.

My personal taste is to bump up that guitar in the intro, for me, I like the soloing and like to hear it.

I really enjoyed your voice and agree it gets a little "Axl Rose", which is cool and if you don't get another singer, I think you sound fine, just double your vocal or bump it up, I liked it.

Enjoyed the listen, but think you need to just put your song out there without the excuses and allow everyone to figure it out for themselves, don't set yourself up for a fall, especially with such a great song.

Just my opinion.

Tammy

I agree with Tammy - bring the lead guitar at the beginning and between verses up a little, take a little of the 'room'/reverb out of it, too.
Drums up a bit, vocals are about right, but possibly the acoustic/rhythm guitar needs to be 'ducked' a little when you're singing. (Ducking is automatically lowering the volume on a track by controlling it with another track.
Damn, man, get it polished up and sent off to be mastered and to the radio stations!

You have a lot of GREAT things going on Jeff.
Just like Sans you can't fix those tiny things that will always stick out. Funny if you listen to all the old R&R tracks from the early 70s or late 60s even ZEP, we are talking out of tune guitars and vocals.

Just saying,,,, Good track, you play damn GOOD,,, It needs a little tweaking.

Thanks for sharing that!

Thanks Glen, Tams, Mike, Mark, JCP61, and Cap'n! I am going to remix it next week I have a gig with M.I. tomorrow. I am going to take notes from all of your comments and use those as I remix it. I play all instruments that recording is just me. I use canned drums. I can't really do anything with them except e.q. and volume!