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#188926 by Drumsinhisheart
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:13 pm
As long as drug companies have the clout they do in DC nothing well ever be done.

I will also say that POTUS has zero authority to ever state what money will be spent on, because Congress has the purse, not Presidents. So all such campaign promises should be seen as lies right from the get go, because they know it, too.

Mandatory vaccination should be shut down, totally. But it will get worse, not better.

#188929 by Kramerguy
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:23 pm
I think it falls onto the POTUS by default, because they have the podium and the microphone to appeal directly to the people, which gives them the clout to take on congress, especially in this case, where congress is clearly bought-off by so many conflicting interests, the POTUS is the only character not directly obligated to most of those interests. The people would mostly stand behind the prez, with exception that this is now turned into a wedge issue; now diluted with so much misinformation and propaganda, that the truth is buried under 100 tons of crap, like everything else.

At least, the prez is LESS obligated than the average congressional clown.

#188931 by Drumsinhisheart
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:32 pm
Every POTUS has pet projects, and is definitely beholding to money that got him there. They know if they attempt to expose something as corrupt all guns then point at them. It's a game, and Americans are cannon fodder, that is all. Votes, and nothing more.

The victims of autism, of any and all Iatrogenic illnesses people contract, all of it is little more than side issues for politicians, save for those intimately effected.

Knowing people with Autistic children and the therapies that have helped, I would say Americans are better to look elsewhere for help than the federal or state governments.

#188935 by gbheil
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:40 pm
There is a reason other than "concern for the public welfare" for the increasing impetus from all governmental agencies for forced vaccinations.

The global "ruling class" wants the average global citizen to be accustomed to "taking our medicine" when they say we should for a reason . . .

It has not a damn thing to do with your health.

#188937 by Drumsinhisheart
Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:49 pm
Amen to that, Sans.

#188950 by Kramerguy
Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:07 pm
most states have a religion clause, but PA closed that "loophole" two years ago by enacting laws that state that your child must be vaccinated in order to go to public school, or any school that receives any public funding- which ultimately leaves ONLY wealthy-class charter schools and homeschool as ways out of it. For those of us with special-needs kids who can't be home schooled (by the states own educational testing guidelines), we are effectively FORCED to vaccinate, regardless of any religious or philosophical concerns.

It's fascism at work. The conversion of the US has already begun folks.

#189647 by gtZip
Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:07 am
I was told outright that the MMR shot was the only thing available. Seperate vaccines were no longer existed for measels, mumps, or rubella.

I can't pin my toddlers problems on MMR, but I did fight against it with his mother, the doctors, and even 'my' mother.
No, I didn't WANT my child to get one of the diseases.... but I had heard too much already and didn't trust that mmr vaccination.

The thought of school wasn't even on the radar yet by the time we noticed things were not progressing, and some things were regressing.

#189719 by fisherman bob
Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:42 pm
We don't know the math. Figure it out....

#189761 by Slacker G
Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:46 pm
Drumsinhisheart wrote:Every POTUS has pet projects, and is definitely beholding to money that got him there. They know if they attempt to expose something as corrupt all guns then point at them. It's a game, and Americans are cannon fodder, that is all. Votes, and nothing more.


And this ones pet project is to become the Marxist leader of his new America where he reigns supreme over the people who live only to serve him. :) :)

#189778 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:31 am
gtZip wrote:I was told outright that the MMR shot was the only thing available. Seperate vaccines were no longer existed for measels, mumps, or rubella.

I can't pin my toddlers problems on MMR, but I did fight against it with his mother, the doctors, and even 'my' mother.
No, I didn't WANT my child to get one of the diseases.... but I had heard too much already and didn't trust that mmr vaccination.

The thought of school wasn't even on the radar yet by the time we noticed things were not progressing, and some things were regressing.


You and your family got FUUCKED over by GOVERNMENT CONTROL.
Maybe only one in many,,, but it was your one. I feel for you, and agree with you completely. Sorry man, that was not my choice, and it was not your choice,,,,
That's why I get angry,,,, choice was the one thing that God gave us.

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