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Racial Violence

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:48 pm
by Drumsinhisheart
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/riots-explained-finally/


RACE IN AMERICA
Riots explained … finally
Exclusive: Colin Flaherty thanks Obama for clearly justifying black mob violence
Published: 20 hours ago

Colin Flaherty is an award-winning reporter and author of "White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence to America and how the media ignore it."

"And now for a few words from our commander in chief:

“And most of the ministers here know that those riots didn’t erupt overnight; there had been a ‘quiet riot’ building up in Los Angeles and across this country for years.

“If you had gone to any street corner in Chicago or Baton Rouge or Hampton – you would have found the same young men and women without hope, without miracles and without a sense of destiny other than life on the edge – the edge of the law, the edge of the economy, the edge of family structures and communities.”

Thank you, Mr. President.

You may recognize these words as part of the newly re-discovered video of a speech Barack Obama made to black ministers in 2007. They sure answer a lot of questions.

In my book, “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence and how the media ignore it,” I document hundreds of examples of black mob violence in more than 75 cities over the last three years.

This epidemic of black mob violence and lawlessness is happening all over the country: riots big and small. Some we might expect, such as Chicago and Baltimore and Philadelphia, but some are in places we might not: like Peoria, the Iowa State Fair, Seattle, Champaign.

Most of the reaction from liberals in general and reporters in particular is to say two things. ALWAYS in the same breath: “This racial violence is not happening – but let me tell you why it is happening.”

The cognitive dissonance doesn’t jar quite so much if you spend any time with liberals, either in person or on MSNBC.

Liberals are always constrained in their enthusiasm for this racial violence. Even they know justifiable racial violence in theory is one thing, but pulling Reginald Denny out of a truck and almost killing him on national TV is not that cool.

So when confronted with this new reality of black mob violence on YouTube, they hem and haw and mutter something about poverty and white people doing it too, and then close the conversation by accusing someone of being a racist.

After doing more than 100 interviews on talk radio and TV and newspapers, that is the script. But it is not working any more.

As the great Thomas Sowell points out, a racist is a conservative winning an argument.

But President Obama is one of the few to look racial violence right in the eye and tell us what it is all about, without flinching: Blacks are angry because racist white people are holding them back.

This explains how reporters can watch the hyper violence and destruction that accompanies, for example, the several occasions when 1,000 black people stormed through an upscale Philadelphia neighborhood – beating, looting, pulling people out of cars – and all they can do is give their shoulders a collective shrug.

If rioters deserve to riot, and victims get what is coming to them, what is there to report? Or even talk about?

And so it continues: This week in Columbia, before that Erie, and before that Detroit and Buffalo and Champaign and Los Angeles and Flint and Wilmington and Greensboro and Charleston and Richmond and St. Paul and Ann Arbor and Madison and Atlanta and Columbia (this time Missouri) and St. Louis and Cincinnati and Chicago and New York and Jacksonville and Sacramento and Savannah and Burlington and Durham and Greenwich Village and Garden Grove and Washington, D.C., and Gaithersburg and Riverhead and Peoria and Milwaukee and Waco and Albany and Cleveland and Quincy and Gaffney and Greenville and Baltimore.

And more.

All since the Fourth of July.

Over at Twitter, where we do not have to worry about worried liberal reporters paraphrasing the architects and perpetrators of this racial violence, the Tweet stream #IfObamaDontWin features hundreds of comments from black people promising violence if the election does not turn out they way they want it.

“I’m slapping the first white person I see,” say hundreds of posters.

“I will no longer stand for the pledge of allegiance,” promise hundreds of others.

“I’m blowing s–t up.”

“Its gonna be a huge race war. I know this for sure,”

And on and on.

No matter if you want to explain it, or justify it, or prepare for it, promises of even more racial violence are good to know."


Now, I could say I believe this is all part of what is happening to humanity in general, based on Bible prophecy, and get castigated for it. Or, I could address it from the angle of five generations of Progressive's policy on America, and get castigated for it, or I can ask the Obama supporters, and supporters of the Liberal side of the national discussion just what all this means? And how is having Obama being POTUS helped in any way shape or form?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:12 pm
by PaperDog
Black, White, Brown...green Purple...whatever... When a person or group uses a pressure point in his/her life to justify acts of violence, all that tells me is that such people lack the wit , imagination, morality and fortitude to work positively within the system. Their answers is to try to destroy the system, because it doesn't work for them the way they think it should work. There is nothing in their violent reactions and behaviors to suggest that they are actually concerned about equity and fairness for themselves, let alone the others they harm. As long as they keep thinking as they do, their poverty will persist and they will not escape it, ever.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:38 pm
by Mike Nobody
PaperDog wrote:Black, White, Brown...green Purple...whatever... When a person or group uses a pressure point in his/her life to justify acts of violence, all that tells me is that such people lack the wit , imagination, morality and fortitude to work positively within the system. Their answers is to try to destroy the system, because it doesn't work for them the way they think it should work. There is nothing in their violent reactions and behaviors to suggest that they are actually concerned about equity and fairness for themselves, let alone the others they harm. As long as they keep thinking as they do, their poverty will persist and they will not escape it, ever.


Sounds like Richard F%cking Nixon to me.

When you live at the bottom of society, struggling every day, with no end in in sight, you are a powder keg waiting to go off.
When the right match at the right moment strikes, anything can happen, and usually does.
If you just want to dismiss that reality of human nature as just a lack of wit, imagination, morality or fortitude...you do so at your own peril.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:00 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
I lived in poverty many years. Never wanted to steal or kill or blame anyone else for it.

Black people were in much worse social & economic condition before LBJ's "Great Society" began making them dependent on government. What happened? Fatherlessness skyrocketed, welfare entitlements exploded, and drug/gang violence became the norm in black neighborhoods. They were given the same educational opportunities as I was and many of them excelled but their leaders have tried to keep them on the "victim" plantation only to retain their own political position for extortion.


Nope, there is no good excuse for bad behavior no matter one's race, economic situation, or background.


I was staying at hotel in Norfolk only a week after they had their riots that went unreported. Didn't know it was going to be dangerous until I checked in. Didn't sleep at all that night, worried about my gear though the van was parked in a well-lit area by the office. It was damn scary going to check on it every 15 minutes too. Saw my first black motorcycle gang, and people were shouting curses in the parking lot well after 4 AM

IF THE NEWS had told me there was a problem in Norfolk, I could have stayed in another city. When the media withholds the truth, they put innocent people in great danger.

Which is what they've done with Obama, too, because the media is overwhelmingly liberal.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:34 am
by Mike Nobody
yod wrote:I lived in poverty many years. Never wanted to steal or kill or blame anyone else for it.


Well, I don't know how harsh the Texas ghettos are.
But, sh*t stays pretty f*cked-up in Detroit.
It never really recovered from the '67 riots.
And, it has not improved with age, either.

yod wrote:Black people were in much worse social & economic condition before LBJ's "Great Society" began making them dependent on government. What happened? Fatherlessness skyrocketed, welfare entitlements exploded, and drug/gang violence became the norm in black neighborhoods. They were given the same educational opportunities as I was and many of them excelled but their leaders have tried to keep them on the "victim" plantation only to retain their own political position for extortion.

1st, why single out black people?
Do you really think they are the ONLY ones affected by this decline?
2nd, same opportunities my ass!
When you go to school fearful for your life every day and then, if you make it through school with an actual education, you get discriminated against wherever you apply for a job...if there are even any jobs available anywhere...you really believe the same opportunities are there for everyone?
You live in a fantasy world man.
A bigoted fantasy at that.

yod wrote:Nope, there is no good excuse for bad behavior no matter one's race, economic situation, or background.

You are so full of sh*t.

yod wrote:... the media is overwhelmingly liberal.

"WAHHH! The mainstream media won't spin things enough to the right for us like FOX does! WAHHH!"
Yeah, facts have a liberal bias.
Actually, I WILL concede that the media is biased.
But, it is not liberal...or conservative.
It's money.
The only thing that the corporate media care about is their bottom-line, bottom line.
They will tell their audience whatever they think they wanna hear.
Usually that means omitting a lot of uncomfortable truths.
But, I think there are at least SOME people in the industry with journalistic integrity.
MSNBC is not CNN, and neither of them are FOX NEWS.
But, I think on average, MSNBC tells it more like it is than CNN and CNN tells it more like it is than FOX NEWS.
FOX NEWS just pulls stuff out of it's ass completely.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:44 am
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mike Nobody wrote:
yod wrote:I lived in poverty many years. Never wanted to steal or kill or blame anyone else for it.


Well, I don't know how harsh the Texas ghettos are.





Had to move last March because there were 3 murders in my neighborhood in a couple of months. One was across the street and another behind my house. That wasn't a ghetto.

I have never lived in a ghetto, but I've been in plenty. I'm sure Detroit is as bad, or worse, than anything I've seen in America.

Where you live doesn't give you the right to be a criminal. A lot of very good and descent people have come from the ghettos of Detroit, I'm sure.





1st, why single out black people?




Because we were talking about violence perpetrated by black gangs against white people solely based on racial bigotry that is not being reported.



Do you really think they are the ONLY ones affected by this decline?
2nd, same opportunities my ass!



Have you noticed our President?

How about the Secretary of Defense and Head of State during the last Republican administration?

Only whiners and losers use excuses for being whiners, losers, and criminals.





When you go to school fearful for your life every day and then, if you make it through school with an actual education, you get discriminated against wherever you apply for a job...if there are even any jobs available anywhere...you really believe the same opportunities are there for everyone?


Did you fear any of that from white people?

I went to Ball High in Galveston. White people were a minority and there were murders, stabbbings, raping, and gang wars almost every day.

There were also a majority of people who didn't do any of that. What's their excuse for not being criminals like the losers?



You live in a fantasy world man.
A bigoted fantasy at that.



Lie to yourself all you want. Give yourself an excuse for being a loser.

I know better.





Actually, I WILL concede that the media is biased..



everyone is biased, and I expect that

Not many are honest about it, and I expect that too.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:54 am
by Drumsinhisheart
If all this boils down to blacks not having enough opportunities, therefore they are time bombs waiting to go off, why is there not currently white on black crime in areas where whites have little opportunities for advancement?

As the article shows this is becoming epidemic all across the country.

Those who support socialism, and Obama/current Democrat party in general, where are the results of progressive policies for the last 90 years?

There must be a reason for this phenomena developing in America. If it is not acceptable to see spiritual/biblical reasons, and it is not acceptable to see the failure of government dependency politics as the reason, what is the reason?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:08 pm
by Mike Nobody
Drumsinhisheart wrote:If all this boils down to blacks not having enough opportunities, therefore they are time bombs waiting to go off, why is there not currently white on black crime in areas where whites have little opportunities for advancement?

As the article shows this is becoming epidemic all across the country.

Those who support socialism, and Obama/current Democrat party in general, where are the results of progressive policies for the last 90 years?

There must be a reason for this phenomena developing in America. If it is not acceptable to see spiritual/biblical reasons, and it is not acceptable to see the failure of government dependency politics as the reason, what is the reason?


There is plenty of white on black (and other minorities) crime.
It isn't as commonly reported by the media, though (so much for the "liberal media").

As for the progressive policies, they have often been an unfunny joke.
I know conservatives like to trot out Ronald Reagan's mythical "welfare queens", occasionally.
But, that's all they ever were, a myth created by Ronald Reagan.
Social programs were always inadequately funded and devised in such a way to make life harder for people who used them.
You can thank Republicans & conservative Democrats for that.
Republicans, in recent years have been a little more honest than in the past about this.
It is their DUTY, their MISSION, to sabotage anything that might make the government (or Democrats) look good, really.
Unf*ckingbelievable!

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They'd rather destroy people's lives than give liberals credit for anything that MIGHT actually work. :roll:
So, with successive conservative Presidents and Congresses (Bill Clinton was hardly a liberal on many issues. Remember his "welfare reform?") we were left with a system that harmed the poor as much as it helped.
Obamacare is a pretty good example of a liberal idea (universal healthcare) being twisted into something doomed to fail by its opponents.
Single-payer healthcare was taken right off the table before they even began.
So, what's left is the subsidy of the very same insurance companies that created the problems for us in the first place.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:41 pm
by Drumsinhisheart
"There is plenty of white on black (and other minorities) crime.
It isn't as commonly reported by the media, though (so much for the "liberal media")."

Well, wait a minute. The article shows plainly current black on white crime is not being reported. If you say white on black crime is not being reported, then just what IS being reported?

In the last few days on this forum I have become convinced on one central thing - some people want small government and for people to take care of themselves with the advantages of free markets, and others want more and bigger government controlling something or just about everything, and taking care of people at tax payer's expense.

Corruption abounds, rhetoric abounds (Obama made me sick before he was elected and Romney makes me sick now) and the nation is going to crash and burn while politicians fiddle.

Even the mayor of Philadelphia is trying to stop the black violence, and he's black.

I know you don't believe in God Mike. So be it. To those who do what is happening is the beginning of sorrows and things get worse from here on in until deceptions gain hold, Peace and Safety is the cry, then it's over, big time.

Frankly, though, given media bias even they now admit to, if whites were attacking blacks in random acts the news would be 24/7 all over it.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:12 pm
by Mike Nobody
Drumsinhisheart wrote:
In the last few days on this forum I have become convinced on one central thing - some people want small government and for people to take care of themselves with the advantages of free markets, and others want more and bigger government controlling something or just about everything, and taking care of people at tax payer's expense.



Bigger, smaller...what's wrong with having something that just WORKS?
What's wrong with having freedom AND security?
Taxes aren't going anywhere.
They will get paid anyway.
Priorities need to change, BIG TIME.
The military industrial complex needs to go on a crash diet.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:44 pm
by PaperDog
They'd rather destroy people's lives than give liberals credit for anything that MIGHT actually work.
So, with successive conservative Presidents and Congresses (Bill Clinton was hardly a liberal on many issues. Remember his "welfare reform?") we were left with a system that harmed the poor as much as it helped.
Obamacare is a pretty good example of a liberal idea (universal healthcare) being twisted into something doomed to fail by its opponents.
Single-payer healthcare was taken right off the table before they even began.
So, what's left is the subsidy of the very same insurance companies that created the problems for us in the first place
.

There is no benefit for them to destroy anybody's lives . ( Unless you know something I have missed. ) SUre there's always the usuall handful of greedy people. But they transcend all parties and ideologies.

The Health Care system is a joke, period. Wanna know why? The answer lies in the 60.00 dollars billed for a phukin aspirin in a shitty hospital that's filthier than the home we caught the disease in. HOW in any way shape or form does Obama care or any other care constitute a solution for health care reform?

Health Care programs indeed serve as the bullet proof vest against the real cost of health care... Switching vests doesn't solve the bullet problem. Fix the bullet problem so that we don't need complex vests to survive the shots taken at us. THAT'S how you solve health care.
(Can you imagine if we paid/costed for automobiles the way we pay for health care?)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:25 pm
by Slacker G
The answer lies in the 60.00 dollars billed for a phukin aspirin in a shitty hospital that's filthier than the home we caught the disease in. HOW in any way shape or form does Obama care or any other care constitute a solution for health care reform?


People often overlook the fact that so many un insured use the emergency rooms for free. Hospitals do not get paid. Also overlooked are the high costs of lawsuits asking and getting millions even for unsubstantiated or wrongful claims. Because it is cheaper to pay off the slip & fall lawyers than to fight them. Few count the cost of the high tech life saving advanced medical equipment. Insurance companies make deals with hospitals limiting how much a service should cost.. the hospital has to live with that.

There are a good many reasons that hospitals have to charge that much for aspirins. Would you actually believe they wish to do that knowing the outrage that it causes?

I'm really not defending it as much as giving just a few reasons why it happens.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:02 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
here's the thing though....


Should the healthcare debacle actually go into operation, everyone will have a piece of paper saying they are covered.

But there won't be any doctors interested in spending huge sums and 8 years in training for the pittance government offers them.

That means you won't have access to health care. You'll be waiting in a line that is designed for saving money primarily by patients dying first.

If you have the money, you can go pay exhorbitant amounts for health care to the small amount of doctors left in private practice. That is money on top of what you are already paying the government for something that doesn't work. Just like the failed school system.

We're homeschooling because public schools are dangerous and producing full-grown morons....yet we still have to pay taxes for the bad schools that no one wants to go to.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:02 pm
by jimmydanger
You've really stripped your gears Slacker. Hospitals DO get paid for all emergency room visits, whether it's the patient, the insurance company or the entire pool of insured in the form of higher rates. You are one nutty professor.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:27 pm
by Mike Nobody
yod wrote:here's the thing though....

Should the healthcare debacle actually go into operation, everyone will have a piece of paper saying they are covered.

But there won't be any doctors interested in spending huge sums and 8 years in training for the pittance government offers them.


The "pittance" that doctors around the world in other places like England, perhaps? I didn't know the UK was having a doctor shortage.

yod wrote:That means you won't have access to health care. You'll be waiting in a line that is designed for saving money primarily by patients dying first.
Oh? Just like now?

yod wrote:If you have the money, you can go pay exhorbitant amounts for health care to the small amount of doctors left in private practice. That is money on top of what you are already paying the government for something that doesn't work. Just like the failed school system.
Like the cops or fire department I have to pay for to come save your sorry asses in an emergency, eh? Why do extremist libertarian idiots believe that they are exempt from the society around them? That what happens to their neighbors doesn't affect them?

yod wrote:We're homeschooling because public schools are dangerous and producing full-grown morons....yet we still have to pay taxes for the bad schools that no one wants to go to.
So, you're raising homeschooled morons instead, hmmm? Yes, that will go over well if they try to get into college, or employment without a name tag.

Yod, you might be a nice guy in person.
But, arguing with idiots online gives me a headache.
Later, dude.