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This is so sad and I was older than this guy!

If you're having chest pains, please see a doctor, especially if they keep going on for more than an hour. It could be indigestion, but not always. If you don't have insurance - as a lot of musicians don't - many hospitals will work with you on the price.

Chaeya

Chaeya wrote:This is so sad and I was older than this guy!

If you're having chest pains, please see a doctor, especially if they keep going on for more than an hour. It could be indigestion, but not always. If you don't have insurance - as a lot of musicians don't - many hospitals will work with you on the price.

Chaeya

And and please no going on about Obamacare, if you want to bitch about healthcare, do it in another thread. Let's leave politics out of any threads where people have died and offer condolences and health tips only or free clinic information, something that can actually help people. It's getting old.

Yeah, I said it!

Chaeya

46 ?

sanshouheil wrote:46 ?

Yeah, he's not the original guy, he was hired in 2000.

Chaeya

whoa,,,,
i thought you were going to tell me Jorma Kaukonen was gone.

oh well too bad for that guy who ever he was..

Jorma's probably in better shape then most of us young folks! Ha ha!

Chaeya

Wait-wait I am still alive...ALIVE ... LOL

(Oh he wrote star-ship)

jorma never played w J Starship. he played w Jefferson Airplane. Starship formed when Jorma and Jack Casidy (world class bassist) decided to leave and go off to do their Hot Tuna thing full time.

i was/am a huge Airplane fan (Casidy looms huuuuge for me) but the crassly commercial direction that Starship chose to go in was so at odds w what the Airplane was about that i could never dig 'em.

the original gtrst for J Starship was craig chaquico who i believe still walks the planet.

he left the band to pursue a solo career playing slick hot tub jazz. not my cup of meat but hey....whatever floats yer boat.

i do recall a reunion tour w members of both bands. when J Starship performed "Miracles" and "We Built This City"....Jorma refused to remain on stage!

I'm a huge Airplane and Hot Tuna fan, "America's Choice" is a must-have album. As far as Starship being commercial, I really can't blame them for wanting to make a retirement fund. After all lots of hippies became lawyers and drive BMW's, why shouldn't musicians? Ideals? Please.

jimmydanger wrote:I'm a huge Airplane and Hot Tuna fan, "America's Choice" is a must-have album. As far as Starship being commercial, I really can't blame them for wanting to make a retirement fund. After all lots of hippies became lawyers and drive BMW's, why shouldn't musicians? Ideals? Please.

now, why doesn't that surprise me you dig Tuna and the Airplane. right on.

hey, i have no problem w anyone wanting to make a buck. even musicians that i love and have huge respect for.... like Santana or George Benson.

i just won't be contributing to their retirement fund myself buying their watered down "product" that's been dumbed down for mass consumption.

Planetguy wrote:

jimmydanger wrote:I'm a huge Airplane and Hot Tuna fan, "America's Choice" is a must-have album. As far as Starship being commercial, I really can't blame them for wanting to make a retirement fund. After all lots of hippies became lawyers and drive BMW's, why shouldn't musicians? Ideals? Please.

now, why doesn't that surprise me you dig Tuna and the Airplane. right on.

hey, i have no problem w anyone wanting to make a buck. even musicians that i love and have huge respect for.... like Santana or George Benson.

i just won't be contributing to their retirement fund myself buying their watered down "product" that's been dumbed down for mass consumption.

I remember seeing some TV commercials in the early 80's by the Starship touting the virtues of coffee, for the coffee industry. .... they were so lame.

Hot Tuna was cool ... I'd like to learn to play my eyebrows like Jack Cassidy!

jack's always had THE best eyebrows in da biz!

I always loved Jack Cassady's playing. "It's no Secret" and others just had that punch right up front. Even though I play guitar mostly these days I always listen first to what the bass man is doing.

Jefferson Airplane - That was a moment in time. I look back and find it astonishing how different the various bands sounded. Consider, Airplane, Doors, Beatles, Stones, Animals, Byrds and so on. You heard one or two bars of a song and you knew who it was.

Plus - those folks were all about creating music. Their most intense efforts were often their first efforts. It had to come out.


Part of it at least, was gear. The sound hadn't homogenized yet. That was the worst thing about Disco and it leached into the other genre's as well.

I think Punk and Metal were a reaction to disco and the homogenization of the muisical sound in pop and rock - the regimentation of art.

Trying to get back to the intensity of the early bands and create a sound of their own, The punks went very basic, sometimes barely able to play their instruments. They said what was on their mind. It often worked.

Metal? Those guys set new records for technical brilliance, borrowed from the classics and like the punks, did much to offend the 'squares.' They were rebels and played fast! Sometimes it worked.

Modern bassists owe a debt to Cassady, Entwistle, Jack Bruce et al - without them bass players would still be standing in the background sucking eggs. Felix Papallardi was another big influence for me. And they all had a different approach. The common denominator was punch.

Talbot