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An Ethical Politician?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:41 am
by jimmydanger

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:21 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Yeah Jimmy, Ron Paul is not going to endorse Romney.
I hope you don't think he is going to endorse Obama.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:47 am
by VinnyViolin
He's much too ethical to be president.
He would dissolve the FED Reserve and end all unnecessary military adventures and expenditures.
He seems to be one of the few republicans who actually knows what a republic is.
If he ever won the presidency, you can bet he'd be gone quicker than JFK!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:19 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
You ALMOST posted something intelligent. But your previous posts just want to make me say something like this.
Vinny, you are slowing down. You are showing less and less creativity. The same as your music. What orchestra was that,,, you claim to play with?
Where did you get that picture from? Doesn't even look like you...
I'm sure you are much better looking. Don't you have a better picture?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:23 am
by gbheil
The only thing I don't like about Mr. Paul ( other than his foolish ostrich foreign policy ideals ) is that he don't have a chance in hell in getting himself elected but has a very good chance of ensuring Obama's re election.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:23 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Benjamin M Johnson wrote:I admire his honesty. There's very little I do like about Ron Paul; I dislike him as a person, and I think his political views are extreme and potentially dangerous. But at least he is true to his beliefs, consequences be damned. I can respect that.


What is dangerous about his views? He is against stealing and every man should live free.

You got a problem with that?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:56 am
by PaperDog
VinnyViolin wrote:He's much too ethical to be president.
He would dissolve the FED Reserve and end all unnecessary military adventures and expenditures.
He seems to be one of the few republicans who actually knows what a republic is.
If he ever won the presidency, you can bet he'd be gone quicker than JFK!


Impossible "Ethical Politician" is an Oxy-Moron

What a Hoot ...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:23 am
by Vampier
...THERE IS NO SUCH ANIMAL AS AN ETHICAL POLITICIAN. Any that may appear to be are merely distractions to busy the masses. Discussions regarding policies, platforms and such are an utter waste of time ... now more than ever. Clear your minds from the ridiculous notion that there are two distinct parties. Examine the track records of any politician and see how many campaign promises were broken . As PaperDog stated so well the two words do not go together. As Sanssouheil stated so well Ron Paul will never win. Besides the word "win" in this case calls for howling laughter.

Look at the "political history of the US and that is ample enough proof that they are LIARS, THIEVES, CORRUPT and PUPPETS, Any who do not "dance" when they are told to have their strings cut permanently. Any participation in this stupidity is MANIPULATION.

Of course this is only my opinion and what do I know ? Or care for that matter? You should be listening to the Blue Planet Boys and Vinnie Ninnies here as they can set you straight on Politics, Religion, Philosophy, all the Humanities and even me.

Glenny the only time Vinnie ever Posts anything that makes sense is when he copies and pastes be it someone elses thoughts or a pic he in his infinite wisdom deems ?"cute"? Ta

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:00 pm
by jimmydanger
GLENNY J wrote:Yeah Jimmy, Ron Paul is not going to endorse Romney.
I hope you don't think he is going to endorse Obama.


By not endorsing Romney he has endorsed Obama. Dr. Paul is the only Republican I have ever voted for, or ever will vote for. The country blew it big time.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:47 pm
by Slacker G
Look at the "political history of the US and that is ample enough proof that they are LIARS, THIEVES, CORRUPT and PUPPETS, Any who do not "dance" when they are told to have their strings cut permanently. Any participation in this stupidity is MANIPULATION.


Trust government? Perhaps you should have speaks with the Indians about that..... or the veterans..... or the elderly.... They have first hand experience with government and their promises. [/quote]

Re: What a Hoot ...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:23 pm
by Starfish Scott
Vampier wrote:...THERE IS NO SUCH ANIMAL AS AN ETHICAL POLITICIAN.


I never read a more true statement, ever.

(sad isn't it?)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:29 pm
by jimmydanger
Some people will write in Dr. Paul or someone else, but the percentage is negligible. In logic when you say X or not Y you are really saying X. I think most of his supporters are smart enough to understand that even if he does not outright endorse Obama (publicly), by not endorsing Romney this is precisely what is meant.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:44 pm
by PaperDog
Benjamin M Johnson wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Some people will write in Dr. Paul or someone else, but the percentage is negligible. In logic when you say X or not Y you are really saying X. I think most of his supporters are smart enough to understand that even if he does not outright endorse Obama (publicly), by not endorsing Romney this is precisely what is meant.

No, it's not; that's a false binary. Strictly speaking, our government does not follow a two-party system: write-in votes are possible, and third-party candidates do appear on the ballot. Granted, for all practical purposes, it behaves like a two-party system, and the chances of a third-party or write-in candidate getting elected are extremely low. But "not X" does not necessarily imply "Y" here, because there are other possibilities besides X and Y -- however unrealistic they are in practice.

Ron Paul is a smart man, and like all successful politicians, he understands the subtleties of language. If he had meant to say "I endorse Barack Obama for President," he would have said as much. As it is, he chose his words carefully to allow the possibility of endorsing Obama without actually committing to it. It's a small distinction, but a very important one.


I dunno, to me It doesn't matter how many names are on the ballot. The Gen Public is drowning in the koolaid of two contenders. If these guys didn't pay so much money to the press and advertisers, it'd be two other guys and so on...

Personally I'd vote for Ron Paul, but unfortunately he's no longer relevant , even as a write in. The more important question is how your votes are actually relevant. They aren't...not by a long shot... The electoral college dictates the game regardless. What really sucks is when the electoral college, along with the popular voters, hate the options so badly that they have to hire super reps to leverage the electoral vote. So technically XOR and XNOR propositions only matter in terms of 'popular' preference of the peasants (Us folk) . Its not like the outcome of our preference will ever manifest itself. For a hint of Proof? How many times did you vote and your guy actually won, as opposed to to didn't win or vice versa?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm
by Starfish Scott
lol @ Paper.

My one buddy just read what you wrote and said, "yep like all the flavors of Koolaid you could ever want with no sugar at all"..

That about describes it.. ay-yuh..

I agree ...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:10 pm
by Vampier
...Scotty I agree with you, your friend and PaperDog in many ways but like Jonestown it does not matter what colour the kool-Aid is , the end result will be the same. Death. Ta