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Researchers find pop music is too loud

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:19 pm
by GuitarMikeB
From nbc.com:
Researchers find pop music is too loud and all sounds the same

LONDON -- Comforting news for anyone over the age of 35, scientists have worked out that modern pop music really is louder and does all sound the same.

Researchers in Spain used a huge archive known as the Million Song Dataset, which breaks down audio and lyrical content into data that can be crunched, to study pop songs from 1955 to 2010.

A team led by artificial intelligence specialist Joan Serra at the Spanish National Research Council ran music from the last 50 years through some complex algorithms and found that pop songs have become intrinsically louder and more bland in terms of the chords, melodies and types of sound used.

"We found evidence of a progressive homogenization of the musical discourse," Serra told Reuters. "In particular, we obtained numerical indicators that the diversity of transitions between note combinations -- roughly speaking chords plus melodies -- has consistently diminished in the last 50 years."

They also found the so-called timbre palette has become poorer. The same note played at the same volume on, say, a piano and a guitar is said to have a different timbre, so the researchers found modern pop has a more limited variety of sounds.

Intrinsic loudness is the volume baked into a song when it is recorded, which can make it sound louder than others even at the same volume setting on an amplifier.

The music industry has long been accused of ramping up the volume at which songs are recorded in a 'loudness war' but Serra says this is the first time it has been properly measured using a large database.

The study, which appears in the journal Scientific Reports, offers a handy recipe for musicians in a creative drought.

Old tunes re-recorded with increased loudness, simpler chord progressions and different instruments could sound new and fashionable. The Rolling Stones in their 50th anniversary year should take note.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:45 pm
by Lynard Dylan
I've never been in a band where we were
accused of playing to quite. Usually the owner
will say "You boys are twice as loud as you oughta be."

I like it loud

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:59 pm
by PierceG
If they think pop music is loud, they'd really hate to hear me giving, "No Leaf Clover," my all!

Pop music all sounds the same!? I'll be damned... (Insert sarcastic tone in case it doesn't read that way)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:59 pm
by Slacker G
Who gives a rats ass?

Personally I find that researchers are too annoying.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:03 am
by gbheil
Slacker G wrote:Who gives a rats ass?

Personally I find that researchers are too annoying.


Yes I'll be sure and thank the whinny asssed socialist for their unsolicited opinions.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:11 am
by MikeTalbot
I hope the researchers were well paid for the incisive and informative results of this critical story. 8)

The last study that impressed me this much was the one that identified differences between male and female human beings.

Soon, scientists will have caught up intellectually with politicians and carp.

Talbot

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:56 am
by fisherman bob
If I go see a band and it's too loud I leave. Doesn't matter who it is. If I paid big bucks for a ticket and it was too loud I'm still leaving.
We had a great rehearsal last night, comfortable volume. I sensed we were listening to each other, timing was better, vocals clearer.
I also apologize for all the shows I've done where the volume was too loud.
I pretty much agree with the study, for the most part.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the power in music has nothing to do with volume. Any idiot can jack up the volume. But not everyone can get an emotional reaction from an audience.
The best shows I've ever seen you can hear a pin drop at times. The silent spaces in your music mean every bit as much as a powerful climactic guitar solo.
Pop, especially today, is mainly drivel, it's mainly noise.
Years ago I was fortunate to see Muddy Waters perform a number of shows. We were sitting twenty feet from the band and could talk comfortably among ourselves while the music was playing. Muddy had the audience in the palm of his hand, always. You were WITH him. He had POWER. I wish more bands, performers could understand what true musical power is all about.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:19 am
by VinnyViolin
"We found evidence of a progressive homogenization of the musical discourse," Serra told Reuters. "In particular, we obtained numerical indicators that the diversity of transitions between note combinations -- roughly speaking chords plus melodies -- has consistently diminished in the last 50 years."


:lol: Awesome revelation! So true! So many over milked cliches! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:16 am
by JCP61
the useful information of this study is, that volume is a effective tool of composition.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:58 pm
by gbheil

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:21 pm
by VinnyViolin

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:28 pm
by Phoenix777
Pop music is audio fast food, so the idea that it "all sounds the same" is a given: formulaic, repetitive, etc...

However, I subscribe to the old adage "If it's too loud, you're too old"

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:09 pm
by fisherman bob
Phoenix777 wrote:Pop music is audio fast food, so the idea that it "all sounds the same" is a given: formulaic, repetitive, etc...

However, I subscribe to the old adage "If it's too loud, you're too old"
. I subscribe to this adage: "If it's too loud turn the fu*k down dumbass."

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:28 am
by PaperDog
VinnyViolin wrote:http://youtu.be/zLJaPrfG1Bc


Thank you Vinny, Finally! I now know precisely where the music at the Millineum Biltmore Hotel lobby comes from...

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by RGMixProject
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