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The Muse-updated

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:58 am
by PaperDog
...updated on my profile

Premixed- I need to redo some of the guitar

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:22 pm
by VinnyViolin
Vinny, you are slowing down. You are showing less and less creativity. The same as your music. What orchestra was that,,, you claim to play with?
Where did you get that picture from? Doesn't even look like you...
I'm sure you are much better looking. Don't you have a better picture?


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:01 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Vinny, you are slowing down. You are showing less and less creativity. The same as your music. What orchestra was that,,, you claim to play with?
Where did you get that picture from? Doesn't even look like you...
I'm sure you are much better looking. Don't you have a better picture?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:39 pm
by PaperDog
Still cant shake that Box sound...Plus, I think the guitar was ever so slightly out of tune...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:51 pm
by TamsNumber4
I have bad speakers, but I really had to push the volume up on this, can you up the volume of the recording?

Also, the vocal is a bit behind the music for me, especially when the piano plays (is that a piano?).

Just my opinion.

Like listening to the song.

Tammy

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:16 pm
by PaperDog
TamsNumber4 wrote:I have bad speakers, but I really had to push the volume up on this, can you up the volume of the recording?

Also, the vocal is a bit behind the music for me, especially when the piano plays (is that a piano?).

Just my opinion.

Like listening to the song.

Tammy


The Levels are where they should be and I have to turn my head set down... (I think your speakers might be quelling the signal?)

I agree they Vocals need to come forward, and the Upright Mariachi base too...
Yes there is piano and strings in the back.

Thanks for listening :)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:59 pm
by TamsNumber4
I was happy to listen, gave me a chance to listen to one of my favorites of yours.

As I said, my speakers aren't great.

Grant, (in reference to another thread)...you are very smart, you could outwit folks instead of insulting them you know....Sorry, it is just my opinion and I worry about everything, but maybe you are stressed. Deep breath. (it's okay to tell me to shut up about it...). I get that I don't know you at all, but I worry all the same.........
your music makes me smile, I hope it can make you smile too...

Tammy

Re: The Muse-updated

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:05 am
by Sir Jamsalot
PaperDog wrote:...updated on my profile

Premixed- I need to redo some of the guitar


Man PaperDog, that sounds great! Well done song! Very creative and full. Ended earlier than I expected! More? More? 8)

Chris!

Re: The Muse-updated

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:10 am
by PaperDog
SirJamsalot wrote:
PaperDog wrote:...updated on my profile

Premixed- I need to redo some of the guitar


Man PaperDog, that sounds great! Well done song! Very creative and full. Ended earlier than I expected! More? More? 8)

Chris!


Thanks Chris...

"The Muse" is the "Part A" in a set of two songs. Hence the duration is quick, and the end is intended to segue-way into a second part that will be titled "Drawing Me Closer" .
When Steve Edwards (the person whom this is a tribute to) passed, he had withheld the fact that he was in stage 4 cancer . We all just thought he was in the throws of Pneumonia, struggling to fully recover. (He was very stoic that way) . I imagined what he might have been thinking during his last days...and so I put it to words... (and sang it this at his memorial, in front of a lot of people.)

I hope to have that posted in a 2-3 weeks

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:29 am
by PaperDog
TamsNumber4 wrote:I was happy to listen, gave me a chance to listen to one of my favorites of yours.

As I said, my speakers aren't great.

Grant, (in reference to another thread)...you are very smart, you could outwit folks instead of insulting them you know....Sorry, it is just my opinion and I worry about everything, but maybe you are stressed. Deep breath. (it's okay to tell me to shut up about it...). I get that I don't know you at all, but I worry all the same.........
your music makes me smile, I hope it can make you smile too...

Tammy


Tammy Thanks for your kind words about my music. You are very insightful and quite intelligent your self :)... No need for worry ...I am as they say, a work in progress...always on a vigilance to improve.

There was a time in my younger days when I always seemed angry. Last few years, not only has my music made me smile, but its been cathartic to my soul... I have mellowed drastically..(Though some of my posts don't reflect that).

My biggest nemisis right now are 'bullies'. SOngs are themed around various manners of bad types of people and systems of bullying. Here's a lyric excerpt:

Im in the middle of the desert
rollin in a Cadillac...
on a mission to deliver
my dirty contraband

and when I finish up the job;
right before I'm headed back;
Gonna pay a visit to a man
and make him have a heart attack.

And I don't care if he's your Uncle Jack...
If you owe ...you're gonna pay it back...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:05 pm
by TamsNumber4
Tammy Thanks for your kind words about my music. You are very insightful and quite intelligent your self ... No need for worry ...I am as they say, a work in progress...always on a vigilance to improve.

There was a time in my younger days when I always seemed angry. Last few years, not only has my music made me smile, but its been cathartic to my soul... I have mellowed drastically..(Though some of my posts don't reflect that).

My biggest nemisis right now are 'bullies'



Grant,

I do think it is best to let your demons be exposed in your music and to free yourself of any angst that way. The music is a great outlet.

I can see that upset in the lyric you posted, although, for me personally, making someone have a heart attack seems a bit upsetting, but I am a non violent kinda gal....you do have the word "back" in there twice, would be nice to throw in a "near rhyme" to break that scheme up, something like "trap" or "react" or some such nonsense...sorry, I comment on stuff everyday, it is a habit anymore.......

I'm sorry to have gone off-topic here, and I do understand not liking bullies, I have an autistic son and we dealt with that at school this year, very difficult to digest the mind that wants to hurt someone like that.

On the other hand, is it best to "bully the bully"? I think using your wit and outsmarting them and keeping them off balance and unsure will uncover the idiocy behine their mindset and actions. (and sometimes it is wicked fun to confuse the heck out of 'em).

Shine the light on their inadequacies and keep your issues out of it, that makes it most effective...

Sorry, not preaching, just passing along my thoughts....

I do love listening, I'm very excited about this project you are doing because it comes from such a real place within you, one of caring and respect and it is shining through.

Tammy

p.s. Just to let you know I am not free of this myself, I air my tragedy in poems and song, it is my outlet, this is my poem for my son who I lost, like you, I put my pain here, in words....does it help?? some, but I wanted you to know I am not free of issues either, we are kindered spirits, I am not preaching to you.

The Wound
by Tammy

It hurts so deep, way down inside
there is no remedy I can find
my heart bleeds into my soul
the wound makes me less than whole

I used to be complete and well
when you left I lost myself
the trail of tears was laid too soon
and I'm alone, left with the wound

It will not heal since it's not flesh
weeping daily as if it's fresh
time does not seem to be the cure
the wound will ache til I see you once more

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:34 pm
by PaperDog
TamsNumber4 wrote:
Tammy Thanks for your kind words about my music. You are very insightful and quite intelligent your self ... No need for worry ...I am as they say, a work in progress...always on a vigilance to improve.

There was a time in my younger days when I always seemed angry. Last few years, not only has my music made me smile, but its been cathartic to my soul... I have mellowed drastically..(Though some of my posts don't reflect that).

My biggest nemisis right now are 'bullies'



Grant,

I do think it is best to let your demons be exposed in your music and to free yourself of any angst that way. The music is a great outlet.

I can see that upset in the lyric you posted, although, for me personally, making someone have a heart attack seems a bit upsetting, but I am a non violent kinda gal....you do have the word "back" in there twice, would be nice to throw in a "near rhyme" to break that scheme up, something like "trap" or "react" or some such nonsense...sorry, I comment on stuff everyday, it is a habit anymore.......

I'm sorry to have gone off-topic here, and I do understand not liking bullies, I have an autistic son and we dealt with that at school this year, very difficult to digest the mind that wants to hurt someone like that.

On the other hand, is it best to "bully the bully"? I think using your wit and outsmarting them and keeping them off balance and unsure will uncover the idiocy behine their mindset and actions. (and sometimes it is wicked fun to confuse the heck out of 'em).

Shine the light on their inadequacies and keep your issues out of it, that makes it most effective...

Sorry, not preaching, just passing along my thoughts....

I do love listening, I'm very excited about this project you are doing because it comes from such a real place within you, one of caring and respect and it is shining through.

Tammy

p.s. Just to let you know I am not free of this myself, I air my tragedy in poems and song, it is my outlet, this is my poem for my son who I lost, like you, I put my pain here, in words....does it help?? some, but I wanted you to know I am not free of issues either, we are kindered spirits, I am not preaching to you.

The Wound
by Tammy

It hurts so deep, way down inside
there is no remedy I can find
my heart bleeds into my soul
the wound makes me less than whole

I used to be complete and well
when you left I lost myself
the trail of tears was laid too soon
and I'm alone, left with the wound

It will not heal since it's not flesh
weeping daily as if it's fresh
time does not seem to be the cure
the wound will ache til I see you once more


Nice Lyric Tammy. Its often difficult to pinpoint words that nail the state of souls within us... My remedy for that is simple... Draw on what the song demands...Nothing more, nothing less.
If I can at all help it, I wont rhyme for rhyme's sake. Plus, I tend to lean into rhyme for the sake of meter...hence I'm likely to repeat a word...But only if it makes sense.

re Heart attack... I'm only telling a fiction here. The song is about an enforcer, working for the mob... He's one of the many "Bullies" I would speak of... To make the theme interesting, its helps to embellish on the charachters

For me, Song writing is a lot less about my feelings, and a lot more about evoking others' feelings. (But it helps to have experienced the feelings I am trying to evoke) The Bullies theme will attempt to raise a brow of thought, get people mad , sad, glad... whatever...But above all, tell a story for entertainment purposes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:23 pm
by Jahva
Sounds good to me PD. I like the lead lines. I started wondering what a harmony line would sound like on the lead... just a faint add on in the mix. Might be distracting to the vocal though... just a thought.
When do you plan to have your project complete? Are you going to try on-line sales?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:51 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Actually buddy, you have to ride the faders on that just a bit more in just a few parts.
But , now answer this truthfully,,, Did you or did you not double the vocals in no more?

It doesn't matter, If you did it gave a very realistic chorus. Very tough tough to pull off.

I know I've said this before,, your vocals are great,,, very distinctive,very YOU!

I think that is so very important. I don't fall in the category of believers that everyone should be equal.
Scary person I am, that applauds individual success, and individual difference.

We are not even talking about your songwriting. BIG KUDOS TO THAT ALSO. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:43 pm
by PaperDog
Jahva wrote:Sounds good to me PD. I like the lead lines. I started wondering what a harmony line would sound like on the lead... just a faint add on in the mix. Might be distracting to the vocal though... just a thought.
When do you plan to have your project complete? Are you going to try on-line sales?


Thanks Jahva, I actually talked about this with my partner... This is gonna sound weird, but the lead line, I kept thinking about Carlos Santana... And in the world of Rock Gods, a harmonized line would add 'power', and strike a formidable posture into the song... but we opted out of it here (in so much as my unseasoned playing ability allows) because I'm 'trying" to convey a sense of Mexican pride, and empathy while maintaining an overall sense of melancholy (Man I know its weird ...and You must think I'm bonkers at this stage... )
We still need to fuss with the levels, also. My intention was really to put the line further back. It shouldnt be so featured up front.....