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No its not me, wish it were, never heard of this guy before, but its one of the best renditions Ive heard.

Check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Pjp ... =endscreen

WOW PHUCKING WOW! Thanks for sharing that JW That dude walks on water...

Jeez...That guy just blew the whole electric guitar community out of the water... with that song... I mean... Its one thing to play that on a strat...Its quite another to play it on an instrument where it requires some brute finger strength on the frets to get the sound resonation out...

It's awesome played ... but it's an "acoustic - electric" and it's feeding an amp. NOT the same animal at all.

Not to be disparaging of his talent now ... but much of the note articulation is not possible with a true acoustic guitar.

which begs to question ... why not just play it on an electric ??

sanshouheil wrote:It's awesome played ... but it's an "acoustic - electric" and it's feeding an amp. NOT the same animal at all.

Not to be disparaging of his talent now ... but much of the note articulation is not possible with a true acoustic guitar.

which begs to question ... why not just play it on an electric ??

Regardless of the amplification, his amazing ability to sustain various runs and finger positions is still more difficult on an acoustic...
To prove my point... Try out Voodo child on your electric (maybe master 16 bars of it) and then plug in an acoustic... and try the same thing... If you get throuhg it cleanly, you will see the work is more...

PaperDog wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:It's awesome played ... but it's an "acoustic - electric" and it's feeding an amp. NOT the same animal at all.

Not to be disparaging of his talent now ... but much of the note articulation is not possible with a true acoustic guitar.

which begs to question ... why not just play it on an electric ??

Regardless of the amplification, his amazing ability to sustain various runs and finger positions is still more difficult on an acoustic...
To prove my point... Try out Voodo child on your electric (maybe master 16 bars of it) and then plug in an acoustic... and try the same thing... If you get throuhg it cleanly, you will see the work is more...

That's a given ... my point was not to diminish his skill but to question.
It is not an "acoustic" guitar. And much of the note articulation and sustain is simply not possible with an acoustic.

I'm a stickler for fine points of fact.
Simple things like people calling a semiautomatic handgun an automatic ... it's just not.
He is not playing an "acoustic guitar" it is in fact an acoustic-electric.

Maybe I'm over sensitive.



It is a beautiful rendition...

sanshouheil wrote:

PaperDog wrote:

sanshouheil wrote:It's awesome played ... but it's an "acoustic - electric" and it's feeding an amp. NOT the same animal at all.

Not to be disparaging of his talent now ... but much of the note articulation is not possible with a true acoustic guitar.

which begs to question ... why not just play it on an electric ??

Regardless of the amplification, his amazing ability to sustain various runs and finger positions is still more difficult on an acoustic...
To prove my point... Try out Voodo child on your electric (maybe master 16 bars of it) and then plug in an acoustic... and try the same thing... If you get throuhg it cleanly, you will see the work is more...

That's a given ... my point was not to diminish his skill but to question.
It is not an "acoustic" guitar. And much of the note articulation and sustain is simply not possible with an acoustic.

I'm a stickler for fine points of fact.
Simple things like people calling a semiautomatic handgun an automatic ... it's just not.
He is not playing an "acoustic guitar" it is in fact an acoustic-electric.

Maybe I'm over sensitive.



It is a beautiful rendition...

Would a Les Paul Hollow-Body be considered an electric acoustic?

I like the sound of some acoustics but it is too much work for the music I'm playing these days.

An ES335 or some such would be ok. But with acoustics there is no upper neck, strings hard to bend etc. OK for slide but I don't do much of that.

For someone whose style lends itslef to that sound it makes sense.

My first major band used acoustics - except for me on electric bass. One of the guitars was amped and the other mic-ed but they mostly did acoustic oriented voicings.

When I switched to guitar I got a tele and a strat and left all that behind. Just me though.

Talbot

LOL, I think you guys are overthinking this video, my point was it just blew me away when I listened thru it, this guys is awesome and I would personally love to see him live do what he does.

But yeah its thru an amp, and he has as many pedals on the floor as I use, but so what? He knows what to do with them.

And look at how beat up his guitar is, hes done some playing on that baby.

PaperDog wrote:Jeez...That guy just blew the whole electric guitar community out of the water... with that song... I mean... Its one thing to play that on a strat...Its quite another to play it on an instrument where it requires some brute finger strength on the frets to get the sound resonation out...

On the first point: That guy is a really good picker. I loved it. Went in search of other vids. He was a big time picker that picked with guys like Atlins and Emanuel and others.

The second point is where we disagree. I played an Epiphone Triumph Regent for about six years on the bandstand that sported 52 - 11 bronze strings. I played everything that I play on a Strat on that guitar. In fact, I didn't even go to steel strings on it until I about destroyed the Rosewood.
fingerboard.

I have friends that own flat top acoustics that play easier than my Les Pauls or Tele. My strats are about on par with their axes. The attitude that someone is so much better because of what guitar they play is like the old wives tale that you have to be a real picker to play a Tele. Plain ignorance. The tuning is the same, the frets are in the same place, and so forth. The only reason that guy is so much better than a good many pickers is that he is so much better. He worked at it. He also taught many pickers that went on to have a big names in the music industry.

Had I not completely worn through my fingerboard to the glue, I would still be playing my Triumph. (By they way, that guitar was made back when Epiphone made great guitars.

Some guys are just falt good, no matter what they choose to play.

I keep waiting on someone to mention how he rips the strings off the guitar at the end, no encore.

I was watching a version of Jeff Beck playing Little Wing and this popped up, in my mind as much as I love Beck, this version trumps almost every version Ive heard of this song, well other than Hendrix himself.

Ive watched it 3 times now just trying to pick up some cool licks! Guess I need to get busy!

Slacker G wrote:

PaperDog wrote:Jeez...That guy just blew the whole electric guitar community out of the water... with that song... I mean... Its one thing to play that on a strat...Its quite another to play it on an instrument where it requires some brute finger strength on the frets to get the sound resonation out...

On the first point: That guy is a really good picker. I loved it. Went in search of other vids. He was a big time picker that picked with guys like Atlins and Emanuel and others.

The second point is where we disagree. I played an Epiphone Triumph Regent for about six years on the bandstand that sported 52 - 13 bronze strings. I played everything that I play on a Strat on that guitar. In fact, I didn't even go to steel strings on it until I about destroyed the Rosewood.
fingerboard.

I have friends that own flat top acoustics that play easier than my Les Pauls or Tele. My strats are about on par with their axes. The attitude that someone is so much better because of what guitar they play is like the old wives tale that you have to be a real picker to play a Tele. Plain ignorance. The tuning is the same, the frets are in the same place, and so forth. The only reason that guy is so much better than a good many pickers is that he is so much better. He worked at it. He also taught many pickers that went on to have a big names in the music industry.

Had I not completely worn through my fingerboard to the glue, I would still be playing my Triumph. (By they way, that guitar was made back when Epiphone made great guitars.

Some guys are just falt good, no matter what they choose to play.

Slacker... I'm not suggesting that one class of guitar makes a player better or weaker...But, for example, if one uses heavy-gauge strings on any acoustic, they might as well be laying down telephone cable...

I've been writing and working on a leadbelly 'style' song, which is strictly bare-finger-picking... On my guitar, I typically use a med gauge string (martin)... and for me, the torque makes it a challenge to maintain the patterns, without hurting, or tripping up on the fingerboard. (Hence I practice more)

I noticed on a friends acoustic guitar that he uses light gauge and I can tell a world of difference in the effort put out on that picking patterns...

Often, Lead players that I know, use light gauge for their electrics. In this case , the Acoustic version of little Wing, .. I have to wonder if the artist wasn't using a med gauge, simply becuase his chord-attack sounded so thick, rich and full.

What difference does it make what gauge string he plays? Hell hes good.

It does look like hes using an unwound g string to me, which would make sense for the definition of the harmonics on that string, but I may be wrong.

At one time years ago I would use an unwound g string, but these days its a wound string, Im not sure what gauge I have on my acoustics cause I just leave em on til they break, but I dont have any trouble doing any kind of rythym work that I do on electrics with an acoustic, lead lines are another story, they just dont come out like an electric.

I use 10-46 on all my electrics, used to have a strat set up with 13-58, but I used it for heavy detuned songs.

jw123 wrote:
At one time years ago I would use an unwound g string, but these days its a wound string, Im not sure what gauge I have on my acoustics cause I just leave em on til they break, but I dont have any trouble doing any kind of rythym work that I do on electrics with an acoustic, lead lines are another story, they just dont come out like an electric.

Precisely my point.. And the guy in that video probably worked a tad harder to pull off that brilliant rendition on the acoustic..
Like I said.. Do that on a Strat , that's fine...kudos! But do that on an acoustic, that's something to be extra proud of (t IMHO)

Paper if you get a chance look this guy up on youtube, hes really good, I wouldnt post something like that unless it really hit me deep.

The other morning I had my acoustic on the back porch and was messing with Little Wing, or what I could remember on acoustic, so I did a few searches of it, and found this dude, my acoustic is back in the stand for now!