General Music Chat

Doing a lot of reflecting lately. I have SO much music in me. There is a lot of music
in my head. Sometimes I feel like I could literally write a song a day. I so
need to be with other musicians that I can connect with and lead with my inspirations.
I am very capable of writing lyrics, skeleton chords, complete vocals and backgrounds
also song embellishment & production intricacies. That's what I do.

I am very isolated here and have little time for travel. The fiasco I went through
last year with that Tri-Rock Productions has left such a bitter taste with me.
I trusted that guy and completely believed him and his ideas of developing
and supporting our band that I and we put so much time into. He ended
up being a wealthy guy full of lies willing to put his money where his
dreams were.

I have vocal talent that I have not displayed to you guys yet and I need an
avenue to vent through. I think when I retire I will be able to concentrate
and focus on individuals that can facilitate my needs. Two talented
individuals willing to adapt and develop music with me. Thats what I need.
I still have my idea of traveling around and useing select bandmix members
to create music.

Anyway, just venting. 55 will do that to you.




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well,
if you have a mind, your welcome,
just send me a note before you show up.
I'll need to write some lyrics, which I normally don't do.
cp

You sound as much discouraged as the need to vent Klug.
I know what a great voice you have, and talent to top it off.

Last night my wife and I went out to see a local band, play in a local bar.

Talk about discouraging.
The lead singer was the wife of the bass player. Her vocals were nothing exciting but at least in tune. I have to give her credit because she did keep a smile on her face and put on a "air of fun" in spite of the tough surroundings. I'll get to that in a minute.
Her husband, the bass was the weak link, strictly root 5 sort of player. The guitar was a 22 year old, that was playing just to fit in. He did get a chance to show some talent and that was the spark of the whole set. It was also the only time he showed some interest. As far as the drummer he was great at keeping time and keeping it down. I know he was good cause when the guitar got to do his thing he started to kick it up. Unfortunately that was when it became obvious that root 5 bass playing didn't cut it.
O.K. heres what is discouraging. The bar was a little 50' X300' place. The band played on the floor. To get to the bathrooms people were walking between the band as they were playing. I just don't understand what would make any band want to play a place like that.

Any way I wish them luck but I would probably stop playing if that was as good as it gets.

I'm just venting also. By the way I don't mind old fogies,,, If your ever in the area just stop by. I can always find some food to throw on the BBQ.

Unfortunately, that type of venue is typical these days. If the place will pay $400+ for a band, the band will take it, despite the set up.

Mr. KLUGMO,

I think that your songs are wonderful. "I Am" is very beautiful and you can't help getting into the beat of "Sidewinder", such a talent and a pleasure to listen to.

Even as an amateur I know that loving music and people seem to be the same thing, both filled with longing and heartache.

I have had the honor of working with some good musicians who have deemed themselves my "mentors" and share and pass their knowledge around and I do see them feeling as you do.

Sort of a sweet agony and a frustration. I am sure you can vent that into more wonderful songs and I have nothing to say other than I enjoyed your music and hope you find a venue or situation that will ease your heart.

Tammy

That's just nice Tammy.

Thanks for sharing your songs also. Pretty darn good!

Klugmo, your post seems to have the tones of despondency within...

Let me just say, I agree with everyone here about your talents... I find you to have an exceptional voice...and your music is very solid...,Lyrics, structure as well...

I can't speak to the disappointment you felt with that rich guy, cause I have not been in that situation myself... But... I can recognize a salient lesson in that situation... If I were to be approached like that, I'd probably get a lot of the proposal in writing and I definitely would insist on a "Show me the money" clause.

I'm gonna be 54 in the fall... I just had my semi-annual physical and things have improved for me...I have had health issues and I have made some drastic changes in lieu of early death. I quit smoking cold-turkey...Its been Two + years now... Best thing I ever did and I wonder why I didn't quit sooner. I'm eating a crap-load of vegetables daily, Lunch and dinner (I do miss my Texas BBq and I reward my self on the weekends for stuff like that)..Consequently my borderline diabetes problem has diminished...and I've been losing weight as well (At a snails pace it seems)

I hear ya about finding some musical partners... Its been my dilemma from the start... (with the exception of the guy I'm working with now...) .

Its my observation that at our age, its highly unlikely that we will find that 'ideal' partner online. This is not to say you cant find great collaboration here... But for an everlasting Brick & Mortar journey, its not likely. (There is a parallel that could be drawn from dating sites as well.. LOL!...) .

Having said that... I found, for myself that it is futile to rely on anybody else for any aspect... If my partner cranks out a cool bass line..,. i call that a lucky day for me...What transpires to make that happen is always un explainable and I am simply grateful.

To that end, at my age, I have no plan or agenda with my music, except to dump all my own crap on CD , paid for outta my own pocket, and inevitably to be stored in a box in my closet... As I reflect on that which "might' have been for me... I discover...It was not in my cards, as I hadn't even sat myself at the right-table, anyhow...

All I got is today and possibly, tomorrow... For me, at this stage, I'm having fun with a can of paint and its actually pretty cool to paint my self into corners, just so I can stomp out and stick my tongue out at everybody

Good words from all. Get your music done FOR YOURSELF. IF anyone else likes any of it, great, but that's not the real reason for doing it.

Soooo time to write and record a hit song? I smell a Bandmix collaboration. Klug, Dog, and Neander seem to be our strongest mainstream songsmiths/vocalists. We have guitarists ranging from fingerstyle, fluid Grateful Dead, early Pink Floyd, polytonal, mainstream rock and metal shred. Plenty of bass here too. All we need is a good drumkit man (I know a few if there aren't any BM players available). One of my friends is also a recording engineer with serious credits who could organize this through online recording, mix and mastering (not free though).

Well?? Beats sitting around watching Oprah reruns.

Soooo time to write and record a hit song? I smell a Bandmix collaboration. Klug, Dog, and Neander seem to be our strongest mainstream songsmiths/vocalists. We have guitarists ranging from fingerstyle, fluid Grateful Dead, early Pink Floyd, polytonal, mainstream rock and metal shred. Plenty of bass here too. All we need is a good drumkit man (I know a few if there aren't any BM players available). One of my friends is also a recording engineer with serious credits who could organize this (not free though).

Well?? Beats sitting around watching Oprah reruns.

Hey Johnny... I am really dumb when it comes to collaboration on line...how does this work exactly?

First you have to agree on a song and recording format and send out a simple demo so players can work on it. Then the engineer will usually start with Bass and drum tracks all to a click. Each player will add their track remotely until all the parts are done. Then it gets mixed/mastered. LA session guys do this all the time from all around the world. Multi-track recording by email.

First you have to agree on a song and recording format and send out a simple demo so players can work on it. Then the engineer will usually start with Bass and drum tracks all to a click. Each player will add their track remotely until all the parts are done. Then it gets mixed/mastered. LA session guys do this all the time from all around the world. Multi-track recording by email.

1) Would .wav files be a sufficient format for exchanges like this?

2) What is the minimum, Equip requirement for a feller who doesn't have recording gear and would have to go out an buy some. (In my case I have nothing...except for the engineer I work with, and his equip...for a fee

First you have to agree on a song and recording format and send out a simple demo so players can work on it. Then the engineer will usually start with Bass and drum tracks all to a click. Each player will add their track remotely until all the parts are done. Then it gets mixed/mastered. LA session guys do this all the time from all around the world. Multi-track recording by email.

1) Would .wav files be a sufficient format for exchanges like this?

2) What is the minimum, Equip requirement for a feller who doesn't have recording gear and would have to go out an buy some. (In my case I have nothing...except for the engineer I work with, and his equip...for a fee

It really all depends on how "pro" you want the final product to sound. If you don't currently have gear it would make more sense to rent studio time for your own tracks. If it is all done at pro quality, no reason it couldn't sound like these:
http://www.blueribbonstudios.com/credits.html

I would like to share something I have learned that has helped me since all of the music I do is done through collabs on-line...

WAV files get large and you can send them for free through SKYPE and you can load them onto SoundCloud and do a download off of there.

Just wanted to help out, It cost me NINE DOLLARS to send a WAV vocal to England through YouSendIt, I won't be doing that again!!

I hope you guys go through with it, I think you will open the door to a whole new experience and there are those of us that would love to hear it!!

Tammy

What is the minimum, Equip requirement for a feller who doesn't have recording gear and would have to go out an buy some. (In my case I have nothing...except for the engineer I work with, and his equip...for a fee

If you really want to start recording music at home, I suggest you head over to homerecording.com, and read some of the articles, then the sticky-ed threads at the top of the 'newbies' section of the user forums there - some great info.

Basically, as long as you have a computer with modest capabilities, you need an audio interface (translates the audio signal from microphone or instrument to digital), and a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation - recording software, in other words).
Other things to polish your work would be monitors (speakers for listening to your recorded tracks - computer speakers suck), headphones, pop filter for a mic ....

There are many decent audio interfaces for under $200 - exact cost will be dependent on how many separate tracks you want to record at once. For example, if you were recording drums you would not want any less than 4 (overhead, room, kick and snare) but most likely 8 or more (2 overheads, 2 room, kick, snare, tom1 and tom2), but if you will only ever be recording 1 track at a time (vocal or guitar, for example), then you only need the bare minimum of 1 track at a time.

For your DAW, there are free ones like Audacity, and limited edition ones that are packaged with some AIs. I recommend Reaper for its pro features, free to try out the full version, and only $60 to register it.