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CD PRODUCTION QUESTION

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:39 pm
by PaperDog
WHat's a good strategy to use when deciding the order of songs on a given CD. Assume a mixture of songs with varied tempos and meters (i.e slow to fast)

Thanks

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:59 pm
by gbheil
Sine wave. Start @ %50 -75 work to peak back to base line and back to peak.

Unless of course you have some "storied" order to follow.

I see producing a CD no different than establishing a live set.

Hook em but don't hammer em. Built it up, let it cool, build it up and hit em hard at the close.

Re: CD PRODUCTION QUESTION

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:12 pm
by RGMixProject
PaperDog wrote:WHat's a good strategy to use when deciding the order of songs on a given CD. Assume a mixture of songs with varied tempos and meters (i.e slow to fast)

Thanks


Well that kind of idea is Pink Floyd/Tull or Cheep Trick

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:16 pm
by TheCaptain
Seems like track#6 is always the killer..

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:35 pm
by Jahva
The order could be like a set list but think of it like a concert, not some pub jam.
But it really depends on the songs i guess... are they linked or just random?
The order could be like a story... intro- body- conclusion.
Or just.... best song first, then 2nd best, 3rd etc...

You have some good stuff to work with i'm sure you guys will figure out the flow.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:11 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Very seriously, I would ask YOD.
He has more experience at that than you realize.

I am sure he would be more than helpful if he has the time.

I would ask Yod.....

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:13 am
by JCP61
Paper, you're not going to press actual CD's are you?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:29 pm
by PaperDog
JCP61 wrote:Paper, you're not going to press actual CD's are you?


Yes JC I was planning on it...(A mastered and cleaned up version)

I'm under no grand delusions about it, but I do have plans to use it in my portfolio for exposure around town... I figure if it evokes any professional attention (from other local musicians) , however slight, its still better than nothing... They will recognize that I made an effort...and might be inclined to jump on board with me... hence the birth of a full and cohesive band. Only time will tell... :D 8)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:06 pm
by JCP61
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:Paper, you're not going to press actual CD's are you?


Yes JC I was planning on it...(A mastered and cleaned up version)

I'm under no grand delusions about it, but I do have plans to use it in my portfolio for exposure around town... I figure if it evokes any professional attention (from other local musicians) , however slight, its still better than nothing... They will recognize that I made an effort...and might be inclined to jump on board with me... hence the birth of a full and cohesive band. Only time will tell... :D 8)


so your going for a local sell, I can see that, that might be a good angle. Though I figured a computer guy might be more inclined to a more up to date distribution idea, given the costs of production and all.

as far as song order goes, simple is usually best, work from most popular to least.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:35 pm
by PaperDog
JCP61 wrote:
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:Paper, you're not going to press actual CD's are you?


Yes JC I was planning on it...(A mastered and cleaned up version)

I'm under no grand delusions about it, but I do have plans to use it in my portfolio for exposure around town... I figure if it evokes any professional attention (from other local musicians) , however slight, its still better than nothing... They will recognize that I made an effort...and might be inclined to jump on board with me... hence the birth of a full and cohesive band. Only time will tell... :D 8)


so your going for a local sell, I can see that, that might be a good angle. Though I figured a computer guy might be more inclined to a more up to date distribution idea, given the costs of production and all.

as far as song order goes, simple is usually best, work from most popular to least.



Ahh Okay I see what you meant... I am indeed looking at posting the CD for online downloads as well... But One salient action that I will be taking is the announcement of a CD Release party (hopefully in Oct or Nov)...Actually, the Flyer will announce it as a "Beer Coaster release party". LOL!

The idea is to raise awareness of the CD and swap discs with other musicians, etc... But primarily , its to get drunk and socialize to make a presence. ;)

One of the other key points is the publication of art work, which I'm using for the cover... I'm using a few pieces from a local collection ( the work of a renowned old-time artist here in town... who was also much like a dad to me... We were very close.) . He passed away last year and truthfully, a big part of this CD project is being done as a dedication to him,... So that party is also gonna include some visual artists and a couple of sculptors. My goal is bring friends together, have a good time, meet new folk and network...
I dunno where it goes from there.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:21 am
by JCP61
sounds like a terrific idea.
good luck.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:37 pm
by jw123
Good Luck Paper, I dont really have any advice on order of songs, its your art so make it like you want it.

Keep On Rockin!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:49 pm
by jimmydanger
1) strong song to open - get interest piqued
2) weaker songs sandwiched by stronger
3) strong song to finish - leave a good impression

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:13 pm
by GuitarMikeB
Definitely open with the strongest 2-3 songs, but mix up the songs so you don't have multiple songs all with the same overall 'feel' or sound.
With today's listener typically playing individual songs (on an MP3 player), the overall order for songs on CDs is not as important as it once was.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:22 pm
by PaperDog
jimmydanger wrote:1) strong song to open - get interest piqued
2) weaker songs sandwiched by stronger
3) strong song to finish - leave a good impression


Awsome...Thanks Jimmy! :)