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Music: The Divine Art

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:51 pm
by Etu Malku
Philosophers and Mystics believe music to be above the other Arts. In that every other Art is creating a 'sample' of a certain emotion or emotive scene, whereas music 'is' that emotion and therefore exists at a higher level of spirituality.

Music, for Schopenhauer, was the purest form of art because it was the one that depicted the will itself without it appearing as subject to the Principle of Sufficient Grounds, therefore as an individual object. Schopenhauer thought that music was the only art that did not merely copy ideas, but actually embodied the will itself.

"Why is music called the divine art, while all other arts are not so called? We may certainly see God in all arts and in all sciences, but in music alone we see God free from all forms and thoughts. In every other art there is idolatry. Every thought, every word has its form. Sound alone is free from form. Every word of poetry forms a picture in our mind. Sound alone does not make any object appear before us." - Hazrat Inayat Khan (Indian Sufi Master and virtuoso musician)


Music is connecting with the Divine!
This sound has been called the Divine Utterance in Egyptian religion, the Word in the Bible, Naad, Jyoti and Shruti in the Hindu scriptures, Sraosha in the Zoroastrian scriptures, Kalma in the Muslim scriptures, Sonorous Light in the Buddhist scriptures, Naam or Shabd by the Sikhs, and the Theosophists call it the Voice of Silence. It is the power of the Divine manifesting in creation.

When The Divine decided to create, this thought emanated as two principles: Light and Sound. The current of divine light and music was the cause of all creation. This current flows out from The Divine and also returns to The Divine.

The manifestation of music, through musicians here on the Physical is but a reflection of The Divine's inner music.

This music is like a magnetic current that elevates the soul into the spiritual realms beyond. Once we contact that sound, we are enabled to rise far above from mere body-consciousness. That sound fills us with indescribable ecstasy. We become so intoxicated that every pore of our being cries out in ecstasy.

So, in essence when you drink from music you are drinking directly from the Divine.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:57 pm
by Tennessee Jedi
I like getting to that place where I am not thinking about anything other than the moment and when its over its like waking up ...
8)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:14 pm
by Etu Malku
Tennessee Jedi wrote:I like getting to that place where I am not thinking about anything other than the moment and when its over its like waking up ...
8)
I hear ya TJ, the music is playing through you, and you are in the Now and in the Flow.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:55 pm
by DainNobody
the ancient Indians believe improvisational skills are more valid than compositional skills... listening to the electric sitar on Do It Again by Steeleye Dan is not composed either..

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:58 pm
by JCP61
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:the ancient Indians believe improvisational skills are more valid than compositional skills... listening to the electric sitar on Do It Again by Steeleye Dan is not composed either..


I wish i could sell someone on that idea,
All I do is improvise and all I get is a hard time. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:16 pm
by jimmydanger
Improvisation: what works for 'right now'.

Composition: what will work for the rest of time.

A skilled musician needs to be able to do both.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:53 pm
by JCP61
jimmydanger wrote:Improvisation: what works for 'right now'.

Composition: what will work for the rest of time.

A skilled musician needs to be able to do both.


well not really, not all skilled musicians are composers.
some are just performers.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:07 pm
by jimmydanger
OK skilled wasn't the right word, how about exceptional. Not everyone can or should be a composer, I agree there.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:28 pm
by JCP61
you could say that,
though from my limited experience with composers most of them aren't very good performers.
they just can't be bothered most times.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:26 am
by Lynard Dylan
Isn't sitar music wrote in quarter tones,
not half tones like Western music. I always
thought Steely Dan composed all their music,
right down to the guitar solos?

Composition can be reached through improvisation,
but can you reach improvisation through composition.


Music is the Divine

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:48 pm
by Etu Malku
Lynard Dylan wrote:Isn't sitar music wrote in quarter tones,
not half tones like Western music. I always
thought Steely Dan composed all their music,
right down to the guitar solos?

Composition can be reached through improvisation,
but can you reach improvisation through composition.


Music is the Divine
Most of the World's music is unequally tempered and make use of quarter tones. I play a lot of fretless guitar on my recordings, I can get those quarter tones.

The Persian Dastgāh system (Maqam), Carnatic and Hindustani music of India, and ancient systems of Egypt, Greece, Hebrews, Assyrians are all fascinating systems to me, and they all include healthy doses of Spirituality connected to making their music.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:40 pm
by Dok Tokari
8)

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:40 pm
by Brenna Lyn
Why in Hieronymus Bosch's triptich, The Garden of Earthly Delights is music in hell? :evil: </br>Image

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:38 pm
by JCP61
Hieronymus Bosch was a very perceptive man.

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:40 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Don't Know... Tell us.
Oh,, and post some music.