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#171417 by Etu Malku
Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:51 pm
Philosophers and Mystics believe music to be above the other Arts. In that every other Art is creating a 'sample' of a certain emotion or emotive scene, whereas music 'is' that emotion and therefore exists at a higher level of spirituality.

Music, for Schopenhauer, was the purest form of art because it was the one that depicted the will itself without it appearing as subject to the Principle of Sufficient Grounds, therefore as an individual object. Schopenhauer thought that music was the only art that did not merely copy ideas, but actually embodied the will itself.

"Why is music called the divine art, while all other arts are not so called? We may certainly see God in all arts and in all sciences, but in music alone we see God free from all forms and thoughts. In every other art there is idolatry. Every thought, every word has its form. Sound alone is free from form. Every word of poetry forms a picture in our mind. Sound alone does not make any object appear before us." - Hazrat Inayat Khan (Indian Sufi Master and virtuoso musician)


Music is connecting with the Divine!
This sound has been called the Divine Utterance in Egyptian religion, the Word in the Bible, Naad, Jyoti and Shruti in the Hindu scriptures, Sraosha in the Zoroastrian scriptures, Kalma in the Muslim scriptures, Sonorous Light in the Buddhist scriptures, Naam or Shabd by the Sikhs, and the Theosophists call it the Voice of Silence. It is the power of the Divine manifesting in creation.

When The Divine decided to create, this thought emanated as two principles: Light and Sound. The current of divine light and music was the cause of all creation. This current flows out from The Divine and also returns to The Divine.

The manifestation of music, through musicians here on the Physical is but a reflection of The Divine's inner music.

This music is like a magnetic current that elevates the soul into the spiritual realms beyond. Once we contact that sound, we are enabled to rise far above from mere body-consciousness. That sound fills us with indescribable ecstasy. We become so intoxicated that every pore of our being cries out in ecstasy.

So, in essence when you drink from music you are drinking directly from the Divine.

#171418 by Tennessee Jedi
Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:57 pm
I like getting to that place where I am not thinking about anything other than the moment and when its over its like waking up ...
8)

#171421 by Etu Malku
Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:14 pm
Tennessee Jedi wrote:I like getting to that place where I am not thinking about anything other than the moment and when its over its like waking up ...
8)
I hear ya TJ, the music is playing through you, and you are in the Now and in the Flow.

#171430 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:55 pm
the ancient Indians believe improvisational skills are more valid than compositional skills... listening to the electric sitar on Do It Again by Steeleye Dan is not composed either..

#171458 by JCP61
Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:58 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:the ancient Indians believe improvisational skills are more valid than compositional skills... listening to the electric sitar on Do It Again by Steeleye Dan is not composed either..


I wish i could sell someone on that idea,
All I do is improvise and all I get is a hard time. :lol:

#171460 by jimmydanger
Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:16 pm
Improvisation: what works for 'right now'.

Composition: what will work for the rest of time.

A skilled musician needs to be able to do both.

#171461 by JCP61
Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:53 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Improvisation: what works for 'right now'.

Composition: what will work for the rest of time.

A skilled musician needs to be able to do both.


well not really, not all skilled musicians are composers.
some are just performers.

#171462 by jimmydanger
Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:07 pm
OK skilled wasn't the right word, how about exceptional. Not everyone can or should be a composer, I agree there.

#171464 by JCP61
Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:28 pm
you could say that,
though from my limited experience with composers most of them aren't very good performers.
they just can't be bothered most times.

#171496 by Lynard Dylan
Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:26 am
Isn't sitar music wrote in quarter tones,
not half tones like Western music. I always
thought Steely Dan composed all their music,
right down to the guitar solos?

Composition can be reached through improvisation,
but can you reach improvisation through composition.


Music is the Divine

#171505 by Etu Malku
Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:48 pm
Lynard Dylan wrote:Isn't sitar music wrote in quarter tones,
not half tones like Western music. I always
thought Steely Dan composed all their music,
right down to the guitar solos?

Composition can be reached through improvisation,
but can you reach improvisation through composition.


Music is the Divine
Most of the World's music is unequally tempered and make use of quarter tones. I play a lot of fretless guitar on my recordings, I can get those quarter tones.

The Persian Dastgāh system (Maqam), Carnatic and Hindustani music of India, and ancient systems of Egypt, Greece, Hebrews, Assyrians are all fascinating systems to me, and they all include healthy doses of Spirituality connected to making their music.

#172524 by Dok Tokari
Tue May 08, 2012 7:40 pm
8)
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#172905 by Brenna Lyn
Sat May 12, 2012 8:40 pm
Why in Hieronymus Bosch's triptich, The Garden of Earthly Delights is music in hell? :evil: </br>Image

#172908 by JCP61
Sat May 12, 2012 10:38 pm
Hieronymus Bosch was a very perceptive man.

#172909 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat May 12, 2012 10:40 pm
Don't Know... Tell us.
Oh,, and post some music.

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